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Old 12-19-2012, 03:05 PM   #131
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Squashing the fiberglass will kill it's insulating value. It's the dead air trapped by the glass fibers that does the insulating. It's a big mess to remove it but you'll get a bit more room for the foam insulation.
I'm compiling a pickup load of stuff to the dump. *lol* Was thinking it was pretty nasty.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:10 PM   #132
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Lorna, So you used what thickness of foam board on the walls.

And then you can finish with something nice like paneling or carpet tile etc. Will also bring it out to the edge of the chair rails.

do they even make paneling anymore? *lol*

We used 1" R-Tech. I have little tiny white foam beads all over. They are stuck to everything thanks to static electricity... especially the TV screen! This stuff is as bad as Easter grass. I'll be vacuuming it up for months after we're done installing it!

We will "finish" the galley with this...


The rest of the walls will be covered in either the pile of 1/4" pegboard (water closet/toilet area, clothes closet and in the laundry room) we got free (thanks to craigslist) or the laminate flooring (a golden oak) that we picked up for a really low price during the Black Friday sales at work.

Windows will be trimmed in PVC brick molding. Not wood. I expect the windows/aluminum frames to sweat if we ever move back to an area that has a decent amount of humidity. The PVC won't rot or discolour from the windows sweating. We will rout out the backside to fit over the insulation/wall covering and fit up tight to the window trim. We can use clear PVC cement to glue the whole frame together and then bolt it to the window using the same 4 screw holes originally used to hold the window frame in (which is caulked to the max now).

We are trying to bring our conversion in under $5K. I think I am going to pull it off for under $4K. This does not count the electric fireplace insert (pretty space heater to place in the vintage fireplace mantle I have the TV attached to) 24" dishwasher, washer & LP dryer (used of course) or the LP 6000/5000 watt generator (roughly $900) which are not needed to complete the conversion.

We keep reworking the the materials needed to pull this off and I keep a running tally PLUS updated prices on the stuff I still need to buy. I need to add all the bra$$ PEX fittings that we have bought in the last week. Getting the galley sink & shower operational/useable is my Birthday/Christmas present this year. We had planned on putting in a 20 gallon electric water heater but it was 1-1/2" too tall. So I've got a 10 gallon water heater instead (we've lived in the Class C with a 6 gallon water heater and 3 adults taking showers so 10 gallons is okay). I'll be glad to be able to take a shower in the warmth of our bus. New managers here are saying the bathhouse heater is set at 70F but my thermometers show it's more like 55F to 60F. And the bathhouse has been closed periodically due to plumbing repairs for a total of 10 days since Thanksgiving!


BTW, yes they do still make paneling. We just aren't terribly happy with the selection/price. I would rather pick out some interesting looking veneers on 1/4" or 5mm underlayment(I am rather fond of "burls") and stain/poly urethane the stuff. But the flooring presented itself and was finished already (I was going to paint the underlayment) plus David liked the colour and durability... just not on a floor.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:03 PM   #133
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Lorna, that's funny because I was looking at this

And thanks for all your help and support. You guys are awesome!!!

Also, R-TecH I can't find anything that gives any R-rating indications. The 1/2 foam that I was looking at is dense(not pebbles) and says R-3.2.

oh.. http://www.insulfoam.com/images/stor...Insulation.pdf This site has R-Tech stats. Cool
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:10 PM   #134
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Reading and keeping up on the Farold's trip, I'm not planning any big trips anytime soon. Plan on getting the inside built and then working on insuring the running parts are good before I do. I only hope that my bus does so well when I do get ready to go on the road. At the moment I have a job and am perfectly happy just getting it built with only short trips into town now and again. That will be a major undertaking for me alone. I am still very excited about how things are working out.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:24 AM   #135
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The last two demon bolts are gone gone gone!!



Over the river and through the woods (literally) I scored some electricity. Borrowed a sander. Sanding away.


When suddenly I realize this is probably way overkill for something that will never be seen again. And the seams are really roughly welded and won't be smooth.

My grandmother used to say 'never leave your house with holey underwear'... just in case.

Two questions:

Someone at work was commenting. "you need to keep in mind flexibility" I've seen some pretty solid builds inside people's busses. Anyone have any trouble with stretching and bending. I read comments where certain bolts might 'walk themselves' out. I know flooring-wize there were comments about leaving expansion ease.

Recommendations on resin or moisture paper? Not sure I'd trust random Home Depot employee to know.

It was a beautiful day yesterday. Looks like today as well.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:52 AM   #136
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Red rosin paper is the best. It wicks moisture from the floor and plywood then slowly releases it from the side. I am not bragging but if you do the research on this site you will find I am the one that started the red rosin revolution. I am proud of that one contribution to skoolie.net. I used it in industry between steel roofs and plywood. Without the paper a steel roof could rust through within 3 years. Steel roofs installed over wood lath needs none.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:55 AM   #137
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Red rosin paper is the best. It wicks moisture from the floor and plywood then slowly releases it from the side. I am not bragging but if you do the research on this site you will find I am the one that started the red rosin revolution. I am proud of that one contribution to skoolie.net. I used it in industry between steel roofs and plywood. Without the paper a steel roof could rust through within 3 years. Steel roofs installed over wood lath needs none.
Can I get it at home depot? Or where?
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:16 PM   #138
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Sure. H.D and Lowes has it in the roofing section. Red rosin paper also adds a insulative value and only costs 10$ a roll. Who wouldn't sign on to value like that except those that haven't been so informed? The kids in the store probably will look at you like you're crazy if you ask them for it by product name. The older employes might have a clue. Go find it yourself if need be. It will be the roll that is slightly redder then the other roll they sell.
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I'm wrong again!
It's 12$ a roll.
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:28 PM   #140
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Looks like one roll would do the whole bus and then some. I'll put some in my storage unit. Also says not sold here locally.. have to have delivered to the store. No big deal.

You said it wicks the water to the side. Then what does it do with it. *lol*
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