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Old 12-23-2012, 10:40 PM   #141
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Without a doubt the water goes through the process of transmogrification.
Now don't get me to lying. I thought that myself, "then where does the water go?" Up?
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:48 PM   #142
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Without a doubt the water goes through the process of transmogrification.
Now don't get me to lying. I thought that myself, "then where does the water go?" Up?
Transmogrification can do a lot of things with a little.. *g*
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:49 PM   #143
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oooh.. I graduated... to Skoolie!!!! Wow.. *does a little dance* (just cuz I gab a lot) but then damn my body hurts for it too..
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:08 PM   #144
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Think my phone takes pretty good pictures. (camera is out of batteries.)


It seems that the center of the floor between the back wheel wells is made out of completely different steel material. The rest of the bus seems to be aluminum or galvanized steel with no rust at all. This center section the stripper stuff didn't even touch the paint and there are a lot of rust spots in this section.


Note: Floor is slippery when just plain metal. Used Stipper and sanded and scraped and scraped and still some glue didn't come up. Hope the paint will still paint over it, would be a fluke if not since nothing else seemed to touch it .
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:23 PM   #145
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Anyway, this is what I have found to be the best metal floor surface rust removal/inhibitor/converter anywhere for the price/value. You can then paint right over it when it dries.

For 16$ you can treat your whole bus floor.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R ... NfWyq5hDiQ

"Rust removal
Phosphoric acid may be used as a "rust converter", by direct application to rusted iron, steel tools, or surfaces. The phosphoric acid converts reddish-brown iron(III) oxide, Fe2O3 (rust) to black ferric phosphate, FePO4."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoric_acid
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:08 PM   #146
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Anyway, this is what I have found to be the best metal floor surface rust removal/inhibitor/converter anywhere for the price/value. You can then paint right over it when it dries.

For 16$ you can treat your whole bus floor.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R ... NfWyq5hDiQ
Ew.. the MSDS itself is scary. No thanks. The stripper did a number on my sinuses because I wasn't careful enough.

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"Rust removal
Phosphoric acid may be used as a "rust converter", by direct application to rusted iron, steel tools, or surfaces. The phosphoric acid converts reddish-brown iron(III) oxide, Fe2O3 (rust) to black ferric phosphate, FePO4."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoric_acid
I got some rust converter and tested it. That's the dark spot, turned the orange of rust to black, says you can paint over it. Now I'm wondering if rustoleum paint will stick to the shiny metal.

I'll check into the first suggestion more carefully though, nice to just paint something on that I can paint over.

Got caulking to re-caulk the edges around the floor and wheel wells. Need to clean them up a bit more as well.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:40 PM   #147
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Shoot, if you can breath stripper fumes the phosphoric acid smell is like channel#5. I love the smell of acid fumes and caustic fumes, as well as the enticing smell of anhydrous ammonia. I shy away from solvent fumes otherwise I head to the chalkboard and start rapidly solving the more complex differential equations.

If it were me, I would treat the metal before you caulk it.

On analyzing your floor though, I don't even see any real rust. You can probably get by with just painting it.

Ahhhh.. enamel fumes.

You do know we breath 80% nitrogen and all the trace room temperature elemental and molecular gases every breath we take including radioactive nuclei.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:01 PM   #148
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And you probably like magic markers too.. *wink* I went to the Dr because my sinuses and ears hurt, I think from the (poisonous because I didn't want flammable) stripper partly and partly from all the people suddenly burning juniper wood the Dr said. But I'm OK.

Do you think I will have a problem with the paint sticking to the shiny metal? I don't know.. My friend, when I told him about the fumes, said he had a box fan I can use. Might be best to use what you said. *thinking outloud* put box fan at drivers seat and work from the back to the front as bottle said to keep downwind of the fumes. Should be OK.

Maybe get some of these.. http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-25ecodZ ... NjOlIHzYwQ although not sure with fumes, says TB and virus protection as well as particulates. I can't stand having something on my face though.. grah. Ok.. stop talking now.
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Hope all the Skoolies out there are keeping warm tonight. Still a couple months before I'll actually be in mine. Does it sound strange that I can't wait to freeze? Just read the pamplet that came with my heater 'do not sleep with heater on'. *blink*

Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, or whatever your flavor. Keep warm. Keep safe.
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If you have sensitive lungs and what not maybe you can trade cookies to the man with the box fan and make him paint it or (kiddingly) make the father in law do it. I don't care if he's ninety.
If I were there I would do it for you.
It shouldn't take more than 15 to 30 minutes or so with a plain old paint roller on a broom stick.
Other than that open the windows and paint real fast.
Don't paint if it's too cold outside. Oh forget that, just paint it. Be sure to get your paint can shaken.
The link to the mask showed a review of 1 star.
Lorna works at H.D., she could recommend a mask suitable for you.
Interestingly enough, I burn cedar(actually juniper) when I am low on oak. It messes up my head too(tannic acid,soot and ash, that dang carbon again mixed with calcites), but I get used to it.
Also I am not superman so some smells do repulse me. For instance; latex paint fumes. Though I do love the smell of a newly laid vinyl floor. Also some carbon/nitrogen smells bother me like garbage dumps, outhouses and black water tanks.
But, who doesn't love the smell of a felt marker or a dry erase marker? That's what keeps teachers going and makes the kids want to write their equations on the grease board. I love being alive and smelling the smells. Like a blood hound that sticks his nose up in the air and smells around. It's one of the five senses and the first of the 12 cranial nerves (olfactory nerve).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olfactory_nerve
Put rustoleum primer down first if you are worried about peeling. I being cheap would just lay down enamel especially if I treated it prior to the undertaking.
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