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Old 12-25-2012, 08:37 PM   #151
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... Just read the pamplet that came with my heater 'do not sleep with heater on'. *blink*...
Hmmmm... is that a propane or electric heater? Well, whichever, I think we all know we need a heater running through the night if we don't want to freeze. I run an electric heater and it does dry out the air pretty bad but whatever other risks there may be, I'm taking those risks rather than freezing my ass off! Maybe I'll add a vaporizer to create some moisture in addition to heat.

Edit: I'm currently running two small electric space heaters on low and a vaporizer. The temperature outside is 30 degrees with high winds. Inside bus temperature is 70 degrees. The bus power system is being fed by two 20A circuits from my house. No complaints here!
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:27 PM   #152
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Funny... the person who offered the box fan has offered tools, (hacksaw, sander, extension cords, skill saw and now box fan), but hasn't once offered to help with the actual work.

I am sort of jazzed that I can do it myself. My dad in heaven is smiling I'm sure. (about the work part, not the bus part he was too practical for that.)

I scored about $125 in HOme Depot gift cards for Christmas presents from friends. and a $50 miscellaneous Visa card and a promised trip to Ikea. I think my friends at least support me.

I had a good day .. even though my biological family is all out of reach.

Mighty bus.. thank you.
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:29 PM   #153
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... Just read the pamplet that came with my heater 'do not sleep with heater on'. *blink*...
Hmmmm... is that a propane or electric heater? Well, whichever, I think we all know we need a heater running through the night if we don't want to freeze. I run an electric heater and it does dry out the air pretty bad but whatever other risks there may be, I'm taking those risks rather than freezing my ass off! Maybe I'll add a vaporizer to create some moisture in addition to heat.
Propane, and yes, my firefighter chief friend said that they have to put that warning to cover their own rear ends if my house burns down or something.. and he gave me a battery carbon monoxide detector in my stocking.
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:40 PM   #154
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Spoke again today with my flooring consultant and he said he has 'green' carpet. Emerald. I wanted green so I hope it's something I can use. He said he used to install headliners and carpet in vans and busses back in the 70's when everyone had vans. He's jazzed to get to help me again. Although he does flooring for his business so I'll have to pay him but still, discount and help.
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:36 AM   #155
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Propane heater?

Please post a pic.

I have been using propane catalytic heaters for over thirty years. The ones I have are called "safety heaters" because if the pad stops making heat, the thermocouple (bourdon tube) shuts the gas supply off.



I did have some camping heaters that were propane catalytic that had a warning to not use while sleeping. That was because they had no shutoff device. You can see them in this picture.



The big advantage of my propane heaters is that even if the electricity is down, I still have heat.

Here is a short dissertation on the origins of the propane catalytic heater. It is from my thread titled Best Home Yet.


Well, let's talk about them heaters for a bit, shall we?

Propane catalytic heaters are made up of a fibrous pad that is platinum strands. It looks similar to a steel wood pad.

Now, somehow magically, when the platinum fiber strands mix with a fuel source (propane) and oxygen, it produces a "glow heat".

The heaters are 97% fuel efficient and they do not have to be vented. You must, however allow for some oxygen intake from one of your windows.

The reason that they are 97% fuel efficient is because the fuel never combusts. In all combustion systems, whether it be automobiles or heating systems, there will be a carbon monoxide output.

On regular furnace type heating units, 30% of the heat value goes up the chimney (or, vent in the case of motorhomes). Those are the carbon monoxide exhausts from the combustion process.

With propane catalytic heaters, the only exhaust is carbon DIOXIDE, which is what we humans exhale, and water vapor.

Carbon dioxide is a non poisonous gas. When someone tells you to talk to your plants, it is because all plants strive on the breath you exhale while talking to them. The water vapor is also welcomed by the plants.

You may turn on many types of heaters in your abode, and you may notice how long it takes to warm the place up. That time frame is different with each type of heating mechanism.

I had a wood stove in my 64 International. I was living in Connecticut and doing carpentry. When I got home from work on a cold winter's day and the wood stove had died perhaps around noon that day, my bus was almost refridgerator temperature.

So I would load it up and keep my winter clothes on for an hour watching the flame and anticipating when it would be warm enough to play guitar. An hour later, I could remove some of my garb, but it was not for another hour that it would be warm enough to move my fingers on the guitar.

I love wood stoves, but for them to be a primary source of heat, they need a tender.

The great thing about a propane catalytic heater is that it is a radiant heater. It heats the mass of objects as opposed to heating the air. So start it up, sit in front of it, and instantaneously, it is like you are sitting in front of a fireplace. Those heat rays seek you out.

These types of heaters were developed in 1929 by the French. They wanted to develop a heater that they could use while working around airplane engines. It needed to safe as to not ignite the engine fuel.

Being that the catalytic action works at a significantly lower temperature, there is not enough temperature to ignite a combustion.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:15 AM   #156
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WOW.. thank you Accordian, I feel a lot better now. Although mine is a portable Big Buddy Mr Heater with a propane tank for now. And I do intend to have plants share my living space. We should get along perfectly. And as far as working all day and then coming home and being able to get warm fast, sounds wonderful. It has an oxygen depletion shut off. Does a carbon monoxide detector detect carbon dioxide? I would think.

Don't have a pic of mine set up but it's this heater http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...DL._AA300_.jpg .
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:26 AM   #157
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... And I do intend to have plants share my living space...
Just not any African Violets, they do not like any propane.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:53 AM   #158
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... And I do intend to have plants share my living space...
Just not any African Violets, they do not like any propane.
My grandpa and my mom grew wonderful African violets and I've never been able to. My mom's got really big and long stems, my grandpas were cute little tight plants. I like greenery more than flowery plants.
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I've got a temperamental lime tree. Turns out if you water a lime tree, it drops it's leaves. If you don't water a lime tree, it drops it's leaves. If it gets too hot, it drops it's leaves. If it gets too cold, it drops it's leaves. If it gets too much wind, it drops it's leaves.

I have solved the water problem with those water absorbing beads but other than that... it drops it's leaves. I've decided to not have any more plants until we are better insulated & a lot less construction is going on in here (I don't think it likes loud power tools). So maybe by spring I will get back into having plants. I do plan on getting some strawberry plants again since they did well until they froze last winter. And I think I will do a couple little tater tubs of the yukon gold and little red taters. Add a grape tomato and some leaf lettuce. Mostly a few container veggies.
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:13 PM   #160
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(I don't think it likes loud power tools).
*lol*

I am going to have to find a safe place for my cat, he hates screechy metallic noises.
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That sounds wonderful. If you (or I) pack up to move, just bundle them inside until you park again. How fun is that.
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