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Old 07-15-2018, 02:01 PM   #21
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What does it say on the back of your license what you can drive?
Yes, same thing so once I get the title changed to House Car, no longer a commercial vehicle, technically speaking.
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Old 07-15-2018, 04:12 PM   #22
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Yes, same thing so once I get the title changed to House Car, no longer a commercial vehicle, technically speaking.
Once you have seating for less than 16 passengers, you are no longer a commercial vehicle, no matter what the title says. Technically if it is not being used for business it isn't a commercial vehicle.
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Old 07-15-2018, 07:47 PM   #23
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Most standard drivers licenses allow you to drive All recreational Vehicles, regardless or weight or brake system.
Dang, I need to move out of Illinois. I'm required to get a class B license, which means I need to take the written test to get a permit, then the driving test. I've already passed the written but I've been too lazy to take the driving test. Perhaps it's a state-by-state regulation?
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Old 07-15-2018, 07:58 PM   #24
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Dang, I need to move out of Illinois. I'm required to get a class B license, which means I need to take the written test to get a permit, then the driving test. I've already passed the written but I've been too lazy to take the driving test. Perhaps it's a state-by-state regulation?
What kind of license is required to drive a Recreational Vehicle in your state?
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:07 PM   #25
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I just checked, Yep, you're fooked in Illinois.

Driver's License Classifications
Illinois driver's licenses are classified by the GVWR of a vehicle (and any towed vehicles):
Class A Any combination of motor vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 pounds or more, providing the GVWR of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds. Also allows for operation of Class B, C and D vehicles.
Class B Any single motor vehicle with a GCWR of 26,001 pounds or more or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds. Also allows for operation of Class C and D vehicles.
Class C Any motor vehicle with a GVWR of more than 16,000 pounds, but less than 26,001 pounds or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds. Also allows for operation of Class D vehicles.
Class D Any motor vehicle with a GVWR of 16,000 pounds or less. Does not include A. B, C, L or M vehicles.
Class L Any motor-driven cycle with less than 150cc displacement.
Class M Any motorcycle or motor-driven cycle.
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Old 07-21-2018, 04:16 PM   #26
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So did you do a ride report on adv.rider??
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Old 07-21-2018, 04:34 PM   #27
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Abs is a issue- most
Likely I’d have the brakes gone thru- air brakes work great and you don’t want to kill anyone. Sensors go wonky- steering could bebushings- new tires is a dead giveaway - the old ones probably wore funny. A semi truck shop specializing in front end work can check it out and make recommendations. Check for bondo- cause 140k is barely broken in, a front end accident could explain the steering and alignment problems. . The cat engine will last well given fresh fluids and filters. Secondary air filter replacement is super important. Radiator fluid-anti cavitation formula (additive now-kool) is super important. But that’s a great price. Getting it totally road worthy is Safe.
Welcome and hope you have another great chapter of your adventure! Cheers
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Old 07-21-2018, 04:52 PM   #28
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That would be 4 of 6 requirements to get title converted from Bus to House Car in NC. I'd like to try and get this done and inspected before Aug 10 when the 45 days temp tag from Ohio expires. I don't want to pay for register and title fee as a BUS then pay again to re-title into House Car.


Jolly Roger bus 223, can you share your experience how he changed title or did you keep it as a bus? Progressive Commercial insurance rep told me that if I changed it as RV I should call back to adjust my policy from bus to RV to get proper insurance coverage so that is what I am doing. Also, I don't have CDL so I assume getting House Car title and reg will help me avoid this? I was told by a buddy I may need to get Class B and Air Brake Endorsement instead? (I believe my bus is 30,600lbs??)
You should have gotten an OHIO TITLE in Ohio instead of the 30 day tag...
Reason being.... in Ohio all you have to do is sign a paper (no inspection) saying it is a motor home conversion. The paper states it has a sink, stove and bed. But they do not check. Even if they did check (which they won't) a bucket, air mattress, camp stove or hot plate would get you by. (It's a conversion in progress)

I suggest not doing this in the bigger metro areas... Your buddy in Georgetown ( Brown county) would be an excellent place as it's small town, no lines, no undue pain.... But you could do the Ohio title transfer in any county in Ohio. You state purchase price (on title)..pay sales tax and a few bucks for writing & title fee. CHEAP!

Then they issue you a new title stating bus is now a motor home.

You can get motor home tags ( CHEAP in Ohio and most places)..... motor home insurance with many insurance companies.( I use Grange)...
Need no special license to drive (no matter if Air brakes or such as long as less than 40ft. long... non-commercial motor home)

SINCE YOU STILL HAVE OHIO TEMP TAG.... you could still register it easily in Ohio as a motor home. Then transfer title in your home state later far more easily.

How do I know???..... I live in Ohio and been there, done that many times. EASY AS 1-2-3......

FOOD FOR THOUGHT..........
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Old 07-22-2018, 12:48 AM   #29
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Hi, Ken!

Just quickly about brake performance:
Are you familiar with air brakes? For this post I will assume this is the first air brake vehicle you drive.
The brake pedal is hinged AT THE FLOOR.
That means you need to press on the TOP of the pedal.
It generally involves lifting the foot before touching the pedal,
then pressing essentially DOWNWARD.

This is absolutely butt-up-side-alien to all normal people driving cars and pickups since shortly after the model T, yes. Friend of mine hopped in one of my buses last year and took off... and came back white in the face. And that was all it was.

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Old 07-22-2018, 05:31 AM   #30
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Removing seats. I read on here that most used angle grinder to remove seats. I tried using ratcheting wrench and impact wrench. No luck. I had buddy who I hired to do floor works on my rental homes over to help me remove seat. I went under the bus and held on to nuts while he wrench the bolts off. Well, it was good for few seats in the back, but not for the middle and front because of many things under the frame so I resorted to angle grinder.





After 3 blades and getting dark, I got all but one seat and two divider piece that is behind the driver seat. I'll get to them this week.





Battery were dead when I tried to crank it. I removed the battery and the drawer looked bad. So I decided to remove drawer too. That mean going under the box and removing two rusty bolts/nuts that keeps drawer from sliding out of the box if the door was opened.





Batteries were at 7.3v and 6.5v so I recharged them. They are now at 12.8v and 12.2v for almost 2 days and holding up at same volt. Possible something in the system of bus is charging it a little at time. What's the chance it may be from electric motor for the door??

Removing the door handler from the drawer and the 100amp circuit breaker was somewhat challenging but got them off.


Wire brush on angle grinder to clean the panel.. not 100% rust free but they looked much better.


I plan to relocate battery box little to the left and make boxes to the right for solar batteries on left side of the bus so I am not going to bother with rust inside the box (see pic above).

For now, the plan is to try and get battery drawer in very good shape and put it back in there then I'm going to build a temporary structure to hold:
-microwave
-sink with water tank overhead to feed water to the faucet, 5 gallon pail under the sink
-small dorm fridge (does ice box also mean cooler???)
-gas buddy heater.

That would be 4 of 6 requirements to get title converted from Bus to House Car in NC. I'd like to try and get this done and inspected before Aug 10 when the 45 days temp tag from Ohio expires. I don't want to pay for register and title fee as a BUS then pay again to re-title into House Car.


Jolly Roger bus 223, can you share your experience how he changed title or did you keep it as a bus? Progressive Commercial insurance rep told me that if I changed it as RV I should call back to adjust my policy from bus to RV to get proper insurance coverage so that is what I am doing. Also, I don't have CDL so I assume getting House Car title and reg will help me avoid this? I was told by a buddy I may need to get Class B and Air Brake Endorsement instead? (I believe my bus is 30,600lbs??)
Hi there in in NC as well but once you get the bus titled just as a bus it is only $20 to re-title as an RV. And if you need any help let me no.
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