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10-16-2014, 02:45 PM
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#121
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 195
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/13/14
Been calling all day... finally got a straightforward answer from a guy across the state
Basically, he says fall is the busiest time of the year for these guys. He said the reason nobody likely wants to do it is the shaving involved with the foam. He said it's tedious and in his quote, he gave $400 just for time shaving. He quoted approximately $1660 based on our measurements and said it could be possibly a little more or less. Also, said if we drove to him, he could take off $200-300 (granted, he's two hours away). He gave us a number of a local guy to call first that he does work with, and then said if he doesn't reach me, to call him back.
That works out to approximately the same price as DIY.
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10-17-2014, 10:57 PM
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#122
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 195
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/13/14
For the longest time, we researched high and low about our heater. What fuel source, model, etc. In the end, it came down to a Olympian Wave 8 Catalytic Heater and a FATSCO stove (Tiny Tot, PET, and a new, bigger model that I can't remember their name... not on the site yet). FATSCO is nearly local to us, so that was a big contender. In the end, we decided on neither, but rather a vent free, blue flame heater. Procom Thermostatically controlled 10,000 BTU unit to be exact:
http://www.menards.com/main/heating-coo ... c-6867.htm
We decided on this after reading a lot of great reviews and decided we wanted to heat our air rather than radiant heating. It will be put into heating duty shortly after it arrives, to warm the inside of the bus while we continue building in the winter. First comes first though... insulation.
More to come!
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10-20-2014, 10:51 PM
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#123
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 195
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/13/14
We got our date booked with a spray foam contractor! It seems most quotes in our area came around $1400-1600, which is cheaper than we could have done it ourselves. Also, I estimated foam board to be about $900 to $1000 to do the whole bus as thick as we wanted.... spray foam was a no brainer for us! Starting the strapping of the walls tomorrow morning. We are excited to see how the next phase turns out.
Also, our heater came in and I picked up some parts for our propane system.
In addition, I made a propane system thread, because I need help with some resources on designing the system and can't find much on the site. Here's the propane thread. Any help is much appreciated!
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=468077
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10-21-2014, 07:58 AM
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#124
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 163
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/20/14
Don't forget to put in a conduit chase or two before you foam, just in case you need to run wires later (like roof vent, solar, extra outlets in the bedroom, whatever).
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10-21-2014, 08:48 AM
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#125
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 195
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/20/14
Quote:
Originally Posted by r_w
Don't forget to put in a conduit chase or two before you foam, just in case you need to run wires later (like roof vent, solar, extra outlets in the bedroom, whatever).
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Thanks for the tip! It was not in my plans. PEX? PVC? Any preferences?
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10-21-2014, 09:32 AM
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#126
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 163
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/20/14
I like pex--one piece, thin wall, and follows the curve of the roof. But it doesn't have junction boxes that fit easily.
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10-21-2014, 10:39 AM
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#127
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 8
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/20/14
Hey guys - fellow Michigander here - I'm loving following your progress here!
Can't wait for the next update!
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10-21-2014, 12:59 PM
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#128
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Cuyahoga Falls Ohio
Posts: 592
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Startrans
Chassis: Ford e-350 single wheel
Engine: 5.4 litre
Rated Cap: 12
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/20/14
FYI I had a similar nonvented heater on my porch and it would make the ceiling drip with condensation. The vented unit I used to replace it worked a lot better.
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10-22-2014, 07:54 AM
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#129
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,791
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/20/14
Quote:
Originally Posted by leadsled01
FYI I had a similar nonvented heater on my porch and it would make the ceiling drip with condensation. The vented unit I used to replace it worked a lot better.
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Do you know the product name and model # of your vented heater, by any chance? Would it be suitable for a bus?
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10-22-2014, 08:17 AM
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#130
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 195
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/20/14
Quote:
Originally Posted by leadsled01
FYI I had a similar nonvented heater on my porch and it would make the ceiling drip with condensation. The vented unit I used to replace it worked a lot better.
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I'm curious also
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10-22-2014, 10:20 AM
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#131
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Cuyahoga Falls Ohio
Posts: 592
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Startrans
Chassis: Ford e-350 single wheel
Engine: 5.4 litre
Rated Cap: 12
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Re: *Two Birds* - 1992 Bluebird TC2000 - Updated 10/20/14
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazty
Quote:
Originally Posted by leadsled01
FYI I had a similar nonvented heater on my porch and it would make the ceiling drip with condensation. The vented unit I used to replace it worked a lot better.
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Do you know the product name and model # of your vented heater, by any chance? Would it be suitable for a bus?
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Sorry, that was along time ago and I don't live there anymore.
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04-04-2015, 09:31 AM
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#132
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 17
Year: 91
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: cat 3208 T210
Rated Cap: 72
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absolutely love your conversion thread and website! I'm considering using the ace hardware rust stop, but was wondering if you guys used any primer and if you would still recommend this product 6 months later
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04-04-2015, 08:08 PM
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#133
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 195
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CostelloCrew
absolutely love your conversion thread and website! I'm considering using the ace hardware rust stop, but was wondering if you guys used any primer and if you would still recommend this product 6 months later
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Funny that you just posted yesterday! I haven't been on the site in so long and just checked back in. Been really busy on the bus the last two months since the weather started to break.
We used no primer on the bus, just cleaned the og paint and scuffed it up with sandpaper (just enough to put tiny scratches in the paint... not down to the metal) on an electric orbital sander... I can't remember the grit... maybe 150? 100? So far, the paint job looks great after a winter. I would still recommend it!
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