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Old 02-19-2017, 06:14 PM   #1
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What did I get myself into?

Hi everyone!. I just purchased my first bus. I've been interested for a while but then after a few adult beverages, and some coercing from friends also partaking in said adult beverages, I called a friend who owns a bus company and purchased a unit he no longer needed. I'm pretty happy and excited to jump into this and hopefully get on the road within a couple of months.

I ended with a 2002 Thomas FS 65 with a 5.9 Cummins. Being from MA I'm very surprised at how clean it is and it only has 98k. I plan on doing a full conversion with a queen bed, 2 double bunks, shower/toilet, kitchen, couches and table if i can fit it. Id like to be able to travel with 6 adults comfortably. I've looked around on here and a lot of you have great ideas that I'll try to use.

I do have a couple of questions-

Has anyone left the floor down and just framed over it?
I pulled the seats (unbolted from the sides, then broke them off of the floor mounts) any issue leaving those and just putting the insulation over it?
I'm pretty sure I already know the answer but has anyone left the factory heating unit in and still framed the floor?
Does anyone have a factory wiring reference they could point me to?

I'm sure I'll have plenty more questions as i move forward. Thanks for reading


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Old 02-19-2017, 07:05 PM   #2
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Nice bus! We are in the process of purchasing and designing our FS65 here in Newfoundland and I like the look of the bus a lot from a framing, wiring, plumbing accessibility scenario. Our whole bus is screwed together with Phillips metal screws so we're planning to remove the ply floor and all side and ceiling panels because I've heard of busses collecting moisture in these areas and leading to rust... Either way you go I'm looking forward to seeing your progress!
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:20 PM   #3
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Hi everyone!. I just purchased my first bus. I've been interested for a while but then after a few adult beverages, and some coercing from friends also partaking in said adult beverages, I called a friend who owns a bus company and purchased a unit he no longer needed. I'm pretty happy and excited to jump into this and hopefully get on the road within a couple of months.

I ended with a 2002 Thomas FS 65 with a 5.9 Cummins. Being from MA I'm very surprised at how clean it is and it only has 98k. I plan on doing a full conversion with a queen bed, 2 double bunks, shower/toilet, kitchen, couches and table if i can fit it. Id like to be able to travel with 6 adults comfortably. I've looked around on here and a lot of you have great ideas that I'll try to use.

I do have a couple of questions-

Has anyone left the floor down and just framed over it?
I pulled the seats (unbolted from the sides, then broke them off of the floor mounts) any issue leaving those and just putting the insulation over it?
I'm pretty sure I already know the answer but has anyone left the factory heating unit in and still framed the floor?
Does anyone have a factory wiring reference they could point me to?

I'm sure I'll have plenty more questions as i move forward. Thanks for reading


*** sorry for the sideways pictures. can't figure out how to change that yet
Good luck. I am in Westfield if you are local. Will pitch in any time you need an unskilled and highly opinionated set of hands lol.

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Old 02-19-2017, 07:58 PM   #4
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I left the original flooring down and then covered with 3/4" plywood and then Pergo flooring. I'm in Florida and don't plan on traveling to cold climates.

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Old 03-01-2017, 05:42 PM   #5
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I just started pulling the floors today. Mine only has rubber then its metal. Have you found different?
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Old 03-01-2017, 05:44 PM   #6
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Nice bus! We are in the process of purchasing and designing our FS65 here in Newfoundland and I like the look of the bus a lot from a framing, wiring, plumbing accessibility scenario. Our whole bus is screwed together with Phillips metal screws so we're planning to remove the ply floor and all side and ceiling panels because I've heard of busses collecting moisture in these areas and leading to rust... Either way you go I'm looking forward to seeing your progress!
I was finally able to take the bus to the dump/ scrap yard to empty it. Since the was done I started to pull the floors. I only have a layer of rubber then metal. No plywood. Is yours different?
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Old 03-01-2017, 05:52 PM   #7
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Turning photos 90 degrees or 180 degrees is easily done with a program called Paint, which is apparently quite widespread -- I think it comes with many Microsoft-related computers.
See if you have it on your machine.

Probably best to remove the rubber-and-plywood floor, since there is most likely water under that rubber by now, and rot and swelling will ensue.
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Old 03-01-2017, 06:00 PM   #8
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Small Update

After an hour at the RMV counter i was able to register the bus with bus plates. Short version of the story is in mass if the body type is described as a bus on the title it must registered as a bus, whether it has 1 seat or 40. I has to go away for work for a little while so I finally got back at it today. I made it to the dump/scrap yard to empty it, the had aspirations on starting to frame the floor. I got side tracked and just wanted to see how hard it would be to get the rubber up with no intention on pulling the entire thing. Curiosity killed the cat and now I'm going to pull up all the rubber, mostly to try to get rid of the school bus smell.

Couple of questions -

Self tapping screws or Nut and Bolt? My thought is once the plywood is on top the screws can't back out so the effort of nut and bolt may not be worth it.

** So it's a Thomas Bus. It sat for a few days at a time without being started since i brought it home. Now when I start it I have a constancy buzzing from where all of the "Thomas Controls" are. I have hydraulic brakes, e-brake isn't engaged (also a different alarm) all emergency levers are closed and i believe its a different alarm for those since I hear a different alarm when i open emergency doors. I'm honestly not even sure where to begin to try to figure this out.

Any help is appreciated


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Old 03-01-2017, 06:02 PM   #9
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Pictures are oriented right on my computer. When I upload them to the forum they turn sideways. Ill figure it out eventually. I started pulling rubber today. Ive only got a corner up so far but it actually seems dry and in pretty good shape.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:04 PM   #10
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After an hour at the RMV counter i was able to register the bus with bus plates. Short version of the story is in mass if the body type is described as a bus on the title it must registered as a bus, whether it has 1 seat or 40. I has to go away for work for a little while so I finally got back at it today. I made it to the dump/scrap yard to empty it, the had aspirations on starting to frame the floor. I got side tracked and just wanted to see how hard it would be to get the rubber up with no intention on pulling the entire thing. Curiosity killed the cat and now I'm going to pull up all the rubber, mostly to try to get rid of the school bus smell.

Couple of questions -

Self tapping screws or Nut and Bolt? My thought is once the plywood is on top the screws can't back out so the effort of nut and bolt may not be worth it.

** So it's a Thomas Bus. It sat for a few days at a time without being started since i brought it home. Now when I start it I have a constancy buzzing from where all of the "Thomas Controls" are. I have hydraulic brakes, e-brake isn't engaged (also a different alarm) all emergency levers are closed and i believe its a different alarm for those since I hear a different alarm when i open emergency doors. I'm honestly not even sure where to begin to try to figure this out.

Any help is appreciated


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Did you get into how to re-title it as an RV?

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