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Old 02-28-2014, 08:09 PM   #11
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Re: What would you recommend? 39 ft and mountains

92 ford B700, 38 feet long, 72 passenger. Distance from front bumper to back of the drivers seat mounting plate is 8 feet.

92 TC2000, 32 feet long, 66 passenger. Distance from front bumper to back of the drivers seat mounting plate is 4 feet.

8 - 4 = 4

I was way off at 9 feet.

The flat nose only gains 4 feet of usable space.

The flat nose FE is far more maneuverable, turns much sharper. They don't ride well. Unloaded they suffer constant nose diving without air ride front.

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Old 03-01-2014, 01:55 PM   #12
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Re: What would you recommend? 39 ft and mountains

That makes more sense. Still interesting info, though. I never really thought of the fact that you lose space with a dognose. I just liked the fact the engine was up out of the way .

I can see where it would affect the handling, having the riding position that far forward, and the tires further back. The doghouse seems to do ok, but with a big dip, the front will still sink down quite a bit before rebounding. I think I need to replace the shocks, though.
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Old 03-02-2014, 07:24 PM   #13
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Re: What would you recommend? 39 ft and mountains

Conventional front engine bus gives you a little more protection then a rear engine bus or a snub nose front engine bus.
If you have ever seen a bus that took a head on impact from another vehicle you would vote for a front engine conventional layout. That is what I hope my next bus will be! I'm bidding on an International front engine conventional with a 466 IH diesel engine with an Allison auto, a 66 passenger bus. Not too long, not too short- hopefully about right!
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