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Old 12-10-2007, 11:09 PM   #1
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The adventure begins..

I drove the bus back from El Paso the week end before last. She is presently parked on my families property outside of Houston. I ran out of light and camera battery on Sunday evening before I had a chance to get enough detail to start a cad drawing for thinking through the interior layout. My goal is to have livable vehicle suitable for my music festival(mud) and burning man(dust) adventures in the summer.

Progress so far, I have ordered a quart of 3M micro bead for painting the roof, Lowes here has white 'professional' rustoleum in gallons on the shelf. I purchased three Doutherm A/C units from a vehicle my work was going to sell for scrap. Two of them look like they are good shape except for some rust on the fans motor, the other may just be spare parts. They were a lot harder to remove than I suspected, they were secured down with a grey adhesive in addition to the normal peel & stick on the foam.






I am looking at adding pyrometer, boost, and trans temp gauges before I think about adjusting the governor. Am pondering pulling the Generac generator and going with less thirsty Honda generators. I guess my next hurdle is state inspection and licensing.

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Old 12-11-2007, 06:47 AM   #2
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nice paint job.

if you are looking at the hondas for fuel savings over an existing gennie, i would think long and hard about it. they ain't cheap.

if you are doing it to keep angry campground mobs from congregating with torches and pitchforks at your campsite, then by all means, go ahead. But, if fuel savings is it, the payback time would probably be pretty long.
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:23 AM   #3
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with fuel at 3.30/gallon, and a geni that eats 0.5 gallons per hour you would have to run your existing geni for about 550 hours to burn $900 worth of fuel. $900 is the approximate price of the honda eu2000.

i think you mentioned you plan to go to burningman not only is geni noise a big consideration, so is the space and weight of the 96 gallons of fuel it would take to run a geni for 8 days straight at 0.5 gallons per hour.

compare that to the 13 gallons of fuel you'd burn in the honda running it for 8 days in a row.

to buy or not to buy when you already have a geni bought, paid for, and mounted to your skoolie....that's a tough question.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:54 AM   #4
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i think it comes down to how much time will you need to run A/C overnight when not hooked up to shore power. Seeing as he is in houston, heat and humidity capital of the universe, that could be fairly often. An A/C ain't gonna last long running off batteries. And who wants to listen to a loud gas hog gennie all night.

If he will need to run A/C off the grid, alot, go for it. If not, if all you need is a few lights, TV, jacuzzi pump, and all the other usual loads, spend your money on a decent inverter and all the batteries you can carry. Maybe look into one of them 24 volt alternators.
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:23 PM   #5
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What do you do with the micro bead?
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Old 12-11-2007, 03:24 PM   #6
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What do you do with the micro bead?

Add to the white paint for the roof to add insulation value. I'm steering away from white elastomer paint for now, because I suspect I will deck the entire roof at some point and don't want to have to scrape away sections to secure attachment pads to the roof.

The bus is parked on my mom's land about 40miles west of Houston. I live in Austin, when I get it painted and plated, I will start looking for somewhere to park it closer to home. I can probably run a line to power the A/C while I have it out there.

The 96 gallons of gas is somewhat daunting, Based on last years burning man weather though I don't plan on using AC except during the 11am-6pm heat of the day. I'm more concerned about the long desert sections of the drive to and from.
Doubt this is more than an afternoon's worth of gas:


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Old 12-11-2007, 10:18 PM   #7
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Somehow I don't think that gas can mounted like that is going to pass DOT should you get caught up in one of their roadside inspections!

I have to agree with the above post, if I already had a Genset installed, I wouldn't go out buying another and then figure out a way to mount it etc... I just got a Onan 2500W (for free) and don't care how much it uses, I only plan to run it when I'm underway so I can have the roof A/C powered up... Trying to figure out a way to mount that thing solidly is going to be a fun job...
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:59 AM   #8
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I wish my bus would have a geni built in already, I for sure wouldnt take the one out you have. Its a geni built for an RV so it cant be to noisy.
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:26 AM   #9
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I got out the bus Sunday and spent a few hours working on it. I demoed the back of the bulkhead/bed and took the top off of the kid sized bunk bed to make a bench. With the bulkhead gone I can finally see from end to end and appreciate the room I have to work with.

Spent an hour measuring to start to start a drawing for planning the layout. My camera was dead so I could not take any new pictures.

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Old 02-16-2008, 09:25 PM   #10
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Hello friend,
Glad you made the trip OK. Sorry I haven't written, been kinda crazy here. Anyway I just wanted to chime in on the generator issue. Before I bought that generator I already knew a bit about generators and then I researched the options for a month before buying that one. The Hondas arent even as good on fuel if you plan to actually use it and not have a long time of idling with a low power draw. Heck, that's what batteries are for. Generators are for running an AC and charging batteries. When you look at the spec of the honda (EU3000) it will burn 3.4 gallons in 7.1 hrs at full throttle. That's where it will be running when the AC is running. The Generac uses .34 gallons at half load (about where it will be running the same AC). Besides the generac is remote controlled and will last 5 times as long in the same environment. It's made for the job. Heck, it's yours now but make sure you know what fuel consumption is going to be for the way you plan to use it before spending 2Gs to replace something that aint broke.
Also If you plan to run 2 ACs then you will need at least a 5KW gen to run both. That's about where most generators start using .75 gallons an hour so how cool do you need to be? You might be surprised how cool you will be with just one in that small space.

P.S. BTW the "gas can" is actually an approved marine fuel cell. May or may not pass inspection but is safe and I bought it to get by till I could install a large fuel tank.

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