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Old 02-04-2015, 03:11 PM   #91
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You're saying these are ... risky:
http://northernwi.craigslist.org/rvs/4842964011.html
http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/rvs/4868291032.html
http://flint.craigslist.org/hvo/4828948713.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-MCI-102...34435&pt=Buses

(Yeah, yeah, the last one isn't close to the midwest. But it's close to family. WA is not. )
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Old 02-04-2015, 03:30 PM   #92
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And goodness coaches get terrible mileage. Yeah, I get it. It's a lot of weight, an enormous amount of surface area cutting a hole in the air, and added friction with a 3rd axle. But yikes. I was getting comfortable with 9-11 mpg in a school bus with a high 200s HP engine + MD3060 with 6th unlocked. From everything I've read, I should expect 6-8 mpg in a -71 or -92 DD powered coach. That's an expensive drop.
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Old 02-04-2015, 03:30 PM   #93
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I can't really make an informed opinion without actually seeing the buses.

Since they are currently in the middle of the rust belt they all are bound to have some sort of rust issue.

Of the bunch of them the A2 is the one I would be most interested in converting. The lack of a tag axle reduces your long term expenses by two tires, two brake drums, two brake assemblies, a tag axle and tax axle suspension, etc. You may have some weight issues if you start to use marble countertops and other heavy materials but you do get more under floor storage.

I would stay away from the Flint bus as it seems it has an 8V-71 in it. That bus will have a bad case of the slows on any sort of hill. It won't be a problem in MI or IN but if you ever get into the mountain west you will be spending a lot of time in the slow lane going up hills.
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Old 02-04-2015, 03:34 PM   #94
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Good to know on the 8v71 - I will be driving through mountains. I was leaning toward the 96A2 (or the MD bus on eBay). Less maintenance, less weight, potentially greater fuel economy, and I don't plan on pulling any trailers. Perhaps a vehicle with all 4 rolling, but nothing with tongue weight. So i suspect I'd be OK w/out a tag.

The Maryland bus has the advantage of more space (102 vs 96), and 10 years of maintenance records, and 10 years in Maryland which is at least marginally better than the midwest. The engine/trans have been replaced at some point after original manufacture too, so that's something.
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Old 02-04-2015, 03:41 PM   #95
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And then there's the '79 MC9s and '87 102AW3s at nwbus.com. Both look to be in excellent shape. Those A3s appear to have electronic engines/transmissions. I see push buttons in the youtube videos for each bus. The lift, however, is just a big waste of space.
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Old 02-04-2015, 03:54 PM   #96
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There are PLENTY of nice un-corroded coaches on the east coast. Probably not as many in every area but its not like one has to drive to Cali to get a good bus.
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Old 02-04-2015, 04:14 PM   #97
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I'm looking everywhere. Being in MN, rust-free (or less rusty) buses are a ways away no matter which direction I travel.

Unrelated: why, oh why, oh why do people list items for auction with a reserve?! If you will only accept a minimum of X for your item start the bidding at X!! <end rant>
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Old 02-04-2015, 04:21 PM   #98
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I din't know where you were located, you've been looking all over creation!
I've never understood the reserve system either. I guess its to promote interest and bids.
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Old 02-04-2015, 07:50 PM   #99
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After building up the roof on my bluebird, I sort of have coach envy.

How far am I off base comparing a school bus to a large spartan pickup truck, and a coach (like vanhool) to a unibody full size suv?


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The Van Hool is not in the online inventory.

It was recently taken out of service and it has a current DOT inspection.

The $7,500.00 price is set low to get it sold. Nothing really wrong with it other than the fact it is a 1990/1991 model.
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:01 PM   #100
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The GM buses, city and highway, were monocoque construction. They do not lend themselves to slides or window changes.

All other coaches integrate the frame into the body but would not be considered unibody.
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