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Old 12-21-2006, 09:57 PM   #1
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"Scroll Proofing" -- tricks to avoid the too-wide-


“Help! The forum does not fit on my ‘puter! I have to scroll back and forth to
read!”

Very common problem on bulletin boards (forums, message boards) all over the
internet. This happens when somebody posts an image that is wider than the
screen resolution. Most people use 800 x 600 pixels screen resolution. You can
switch your ‘puter to 1024 x 768 or even larger, but then everything becomes too
small to see.

Pixels are the numbers you see when you hover the little arrow on a thumbnail
picture in your “My Pictures”. You will see something like
“Dimensions: 1234 x 567”, and “Size: 999 KB”. The Kilobytes size does not
matter. The 1234 is how many little grains of color there are across the width of
the picture. That’s what you need to keep down.

The problem affects one page at the time. After a number of posts on a new
thread, the forum starts a second page. That page will be normal until somebody
posts an oversize image on that one also.

Often, the offending image is in somebody’s automatic signature blurb, and they
may not even be aware of the problem themselves. That mucks up every page
they post on!

So a simple fix is to teach everybody in the world to PLEASE resize their photos
and other images to... oh... I like to use maximum 500 pixels wide. That leaves
room for the left margin of the forum where our names are.

Here is a photo that is excessively wide:



Here is the same picture, resized to around 500 pixels:



So now you wonder: Why did you not have to scroll to read this post? That is because I “scroll proofed” it. I simply hit “enter” after every line I typed. Except this paragraph, which serves to demonstrate the problem.

It is easy to resize photos. I use Paint, which apparently comes with Windows.


RESIZING PHOTOS:

Find the photo in My Pictures (or where ever you keep it).

Right Click on it.

On the menu, put the cursor on Open With,
then click on Paint.

At the top of the screen, click on Image,
then click on Stretch/Skew.

In the box, the Stretch Horizontal will say 100 % and be highlighted.
Type in a different number (100 goes away by itself), say 25.

Hit the Tab key and type in 25 in Vertical also. You don't need Skew.

Click OK.

What you see now is the new size. That is what it will look like on somebody's
screen.
If it fits your screen with room to spare, click on File, Save As, type in a new
name and hit Save. (I just add “P” for Paint and the percentage number I used,
like this: If the photo was named “Photo of bus” it becomes “Photo of bus P25”)

If you want a different size, start over with a different percentage. With some
experience you will guess a suitable percentage on the first try almost every
time.

I know perfectly well that this is going to be the usual mess as people reply to
this post and forget to hit “enter” after every line they type. The easy way to do it
is to compose your reply in Word, with the formatting symbols on, and then
paste it into the forum.
I have no idea what’s gonn’a happen next, but I thought I’d try explaining the
problem. Feel free to PM me.
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Old 12-22-2006, 11:04 AM   #2
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Are folks actually having trouble with this?!? I've never seen the problem, even your "overwide" example photo fits comfortably in the window that takes up about 60% of my screen width (that the forum is up in).

I don't think that typing and letting the forum software do the word wrap will ever make the screen go too wide; it seems that it would only happen with a wide photo that the software has no way of wrapping. I hope this is the case; I don't even have a word processing program in this computer!

Can the forum software be set to limit the width of photos posted?


STEVE! Help!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Les Lampman
Can the forum software be set to limit the width of photos posted?
No, unless I only allowed pictures that are hosted on skoolie.net and I don't think anyone wants me to do that.

If someone has a problem with a picture let me know and I will resize it but I don't think this is a problem people will have on any computer that is at least 3 years old.
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Old 12-22-2006, 11:43 AM   #4
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Les and Steve:

I had to scroll to read your posts just now.

I learned about this on the Burning Man board. That's a huge board and
lots of folks went round and round last year figuring this out. Of course,
informing the entire world to keep their pixels down isn't going to happen!

Apparently, some 'puters don't have the problem, but many do.

Right, text alone does not cause a problem. It is a wide photo that causes it.

I'm no expert on computers! But I'm a firm believer in keeping photos
below 600 or so pixels.

And then, when I discovered that signature image (about the radio thing)
on the Millicent thread, I started Scroll Proofing with the "enter" key to
help "my" readers.

Merry Christmas, and keep up the good work!

[Scroll Proofed]
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Old 12-22-2006, 11:52 AM   #5
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Our friend has shrunk his signature image, so the Millicent thread is
normal again -- until next time somebody unleashes a gazillion pixel
image.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all!
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Yeah, sorry about that....darn post-rock with it's obnoxiously long song titles for instrumental songs. For what it's worth, I have always had to scroll, even with the "fix" on my home computer set to 800x600.

My monitor is only 15 inches so that makes larger resolutions impossible. I would have expected this problem with the 450 mhz Pentium 3 I had been using up until a month ago, but I thought the $50 2.54 northwood Pentium 4 Vaio I bought off a friend (it wasn't working at the time) would be capable of handling it. Too bad the board was made by Intel and only has 64mb onboard graphics "Intel Extreme Graphics." What's worse is that they didn't include an AGP or PCI-E slot and I'm not game for putting in a PCI graphics card because the performance is dismal for the price. Needless to say I'm stuck sidescrolling.

I will, however, try and avoid letting those long song titles get scrobbled into my sig line.

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Solstice, Happy Eid-al-Adha, Happy Kwanzaa, Happy Shakyamuni Buddha Day, and any other holidays I may have missed to all of you!
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Merry Happy to everybody, you bet'cha!

Of course, I have no idea what you said starting with "My monitor..." to
ending with "...for the price."!

It's really not that complicated. Text wraps, and images do not. Text
spreads out to match the largest image on the page. So don't post any
image more than 600 pixels wide, and a lot fewer people will have to
scroll sideways.

Apparently, some computers handle this better than others. Les, do you
use a larger resolution like 1024 x 768 or larger? My sample wide photo
is perhaps 1000 or so -- just a little too wide for all those of us who use
800 x 600. (I tried to post it at 2000+, but Photobucket "fixed" it.)

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Apparently, some computers handle this better than others. Les, do you use a larger resolution like 1024 x 768 or larger? My sample wide photo is perhaps 1000 or so -- just a little too wide for all those of us who use 800 x 600. (I tried to post it at 2000+, but Photobucket "fixed" it.)
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Hiya...

First off...I was in a hurry when I wrote my first post and it should have said "Wow! I didn't realize folks were having trouble with this." When I re-read what I originally wrote now it sounds a little condescending and that's not what I meant in the least.

I do have a much higher resolution...I'm not on that computer right now but as I recall it's 1680 x 1050. Which is obvioulsy why I'm not seeing the problem (even if I create it) even when running Skoolie.net in a window. The much smaller (17") monitor I'm on now runs at 1280 x 1024 so I guess I wouldn't notice the problem then either.

Thanks for all the info...now I know to pay particular attention to the pixel size when I post photos.

Happy Holidays to all...

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