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Old 08-13-2019, 12:46 PM   #1
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Smile 1958 gmc 4104 motor - Looking for input on bus I am considering to buy

1958 gmc 4104 motor was rebuilt about 25000 miles ago. $10,500. mostly converted with some solar and has been used to boondock which is our goal for off grid living. it's aluminum no rust. titled as an RV/antique. It is a detroit 671 diesel with a 4 speed transmission. It has air brakes. 35 ft.

Thoughts? Help, please! I really want this bus but we are newbies and nervous! They say they paid $15000 for shell and now selling because they want a different body style and they've found what they want and want to buy it.
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Old 08-13-2019, 01:02 PM   #2
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From what I have seen that's not a bad price, I would want to see some paper work on the rebuild and check the age (dot dates) on the tires and if that all checks out go for it.

Hope you do go for it!



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1958 gmc 4104 motor was rebuilt about 25000 miles ago. $10,500. mostly converted with some solar and has been used to boondock which is our goal for off grid living. it's aluminum no rust. titled as an RV/antique. It is a detroit 671 diesel with a 4 speed transmission. It has air brakes. 35 ft.

Thoughts? Help, please! I really want this bus but we are newbies and nervous! They say they paid $15000 for shell and now selling because they want a different body style and they've found what they want and want to buy it.
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Old 08-13-2019, 01:12 PM   #3
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From what I have seen that's not a bad price, I would want to see some paper work on the rebuild and check the age (dot dates) on the tires and if that all checks out go for it.

Hope you do go for it!
The seller says: It was rebuilt when I got it. So I don't have the paperwork. Sorry.

I asked about the rooftop AC - he said It has one good one and one underneath it isn't working

Seller says: I build custom Harleys in Harley parts for a living.
Has no manual - The manual wouldn't do much good at this point as I have replaced pretty much every wire and hose in the whole bus
I made it so the whole chassis runs on only 8 wires that way it stays simple
The whole bus will actually drive with only one wire that's not turn signals and lighting of course but it will move on only one wire. Its a 35 foot. Yes it will run 65-70. It was a tour bus so geared for highway driving. Brakes are all drum and were in good shape last time I checked them. I have put many miles on it since then.
I do all the maintenence on it so no records. The tires are all in really good shape. Doubt youd need to change the for at least 5 years
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Old 08-13-2019, 01:18 PM   #4
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your future bus 6-71

I urge you to go to youtube and check out "bus grease monkey" you will get an idea of that engine, and those kind of busses.

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Old 08-13-2019, 01:18 PM   #5
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I don't know, my gut would say to maybe skip that one if the guy cut up all the wires and etc might make service a nightmare down the road. I mean it's a 58 so likely only had a few dozen wires at most from the start.

With that new info I would have inspected now, before you pull the trigger.



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The seller says: It was rebuilt when I got it. So I don't have the paperwork. Sorry. I made it so the whole chassis runs on only 8 wires that way it stays simple. The whole bus will actually drive with only one wire that's not turn signals and lighting of course but it will move on only one wire.
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Old 08-13-2019, 03:42 PM   #6
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ain't nothing inherently wrong with aluminum bodys. In fact i like them. the body on My URV is a 1988 U-Haul aluminum box. It weighs 3000 lbs.
I had to pay $1500 for it due to the price of aluminum scrap at the time.
The really good new it it will NOT rust.

A 6-71 is a fine diesel engine. Just make sure you keep oil in it and you put the correct oil in it it as well.

lots of info here on the 71 series
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Diesel_Series_71
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:45 PM   #7
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You better like to drive a 4 speed Spicer transmission. Not your smooth shifting syncro box. No power steering, unless added later. Original engine non-turbo charged. Has airbags, and obselete airbrakes (hard to get parts). Many used buses are said to have a recently rebuilt engine, so without documentation that means nothing.

I'd love to have a 4104, but I'd keep it as a pet.
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