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Old 03-03-2005, 09:50 AM   #11
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Thanx for the reply and that guy will no longer be my source for info

Is there any engines that i should definetly look for??

Ones that are just awsome and never break down??

Thanx again Tony
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:28 AM   #12
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i still like this 366 because i think it will run for a long while yet however what kind of gas milage should i expect

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Old 03-03-2005, 11:25 PM   #13
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Cummins 6BT/ISB 5.9 litre
International DT466/466E (best of the bunch, by far)

Close runners-up:

International T444E
International DT408
Caterpillar 3208 (smoky, but durable if maintained)
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:13 AM   #14
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are these engines hard to come by for under 2000 to 3000
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:20 AM   #15
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I'd stay away from anything with an "E" at the end. This makes fixing it yourself very difficult.

That's ok tough, because these electroinic engines weren't used much in the era of buses we buy.
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Old 03-04-2005, 12:39 PM   #16
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r u refering to the 466e and the 444e
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Old 03-05-2005, 12:25 AM   #17
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IIRC, the "E" version of the DT466 arrived in mid-1995. The T444E showed up in, IIRC, early 1995. The T444E, at least (dunno about the DT466E), does not need a code reader to troubleshoot.

For about $15 at a dealer, you can get a code list (like, about 100 of them) & a troubleshooting flowchart. Use the bus's diagnostic mode, read the codes, & use the flowchart--I've done it on a 1999 IH 3800 at work, & it's pretty simple.

Even if the 466 doesn't have the diagnostic button (dunno--we have no 466's at work), a $50 code reader should work.
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Old 04-20-2005, 07:02 PM   #18
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For the AT545 to be a bad tranny, it seems that a lot of buses use them... At least from the for-sale lists that I have looked at. I'm more of a manual trans kinda guy anyway, but just curious... What's the problem with them?

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They are inefficent (10-15% mpg loss over different tranny) and the gears are generally tall, that combined with only 3 speeds limits top speed and runs engine at higher RPM's. That being said I have one and if it is serviced reguarly and do not get it stuck and spin the wheels (death for that trans) its pretty much bulletproof. I plan on swapping my rear end out to a lower ratio to get the speed/mpg
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Old 04-21-2005, 11:51 AM   #19
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They are inefficent (10-15% mpg loss over different tranny) and the gears are generally tall, that combined with only 3 speeds limits top speed and runs engine at higher RPM's. That being said I have one and if it is serviced reguarly and do not get it stuck and spin the wheels (death for that trans) its pretty much bulletproof. I plan on swapping my rear end out to a lower ratio to get the speed/mpg
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They are actually a 4 speed transmission with a final 4th gear ratio of 1:1 like pretty much any other transmission. The torque converter does not lock up which allows up to a 10+% slip so you don't really get a final 1:1, so you loose a little speed there. The slip reduces the efficiency since some of the power is lost to slippage (and heat). They always slip some but that depends on your driving. On mine if you get up to speed and then back off the throttle a bit it seems to slip a little less since the rpms drop but not much speed is lost. I don’t think slippage directly correlates to 10-15% loss in mileage. Heck the new International CTX truck which is lighter and has a better transmission gets the same mileage as my bus (8.5 - Four Wheeler Magazine). Yes, it's not the best transmission but it's cheap, plentiful and gets the job done. Am I a transmission expert? No, but I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night
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