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Old 09-21-2013, 03:37 PM   #1
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1997 Ford B-800 brake line repair

So I drove my 36 footer (Ford B-800 body) 250 miles on failing rear brakes, and I got it there fairly ok, but now that I've let it sit for a month and moved it a second time, I noticed the brake line along the passenger side of the chassis frame is cracked and leaking brake fluid badly. The reservoir was empty after a 1 mile drive down the road and fluid gushing all along the mid-section of the vehicle. Line seems cracked, as the fluid leaks at one point and stops at another point. Not sure how bad.

Where the heck do I get replacement brake lines for these types of vehicles? Right now I'm in Ithaca, NY . Are these types of things hard to find? I'm guessing the ends are flared but it otherwise looks like a typical 1/2 inch steel pipe, not sure if I can hack something from galvanized pipe at the hardware store. Or if the crack isn't that bad, can I just weld it? I'd prefer a cheap repair than an expensive replacement. I just need to get the bus moved another 30 miles, and with it weighing ~12 tons fully loaded, I'm really nervous about driving it any further on just front brakes.

If the line needs replacement, what sort of cost am I looking at? New/used? Help! I am living minimally/subsistence and only have enough income to cover groceries and gas for my car.
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Old 09-21-2013, 03:56 PM   #2
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Re: 1997 Ford B-800 brake line repair

Pretty tough to weld steel tubing without burning it up. Brake fluit is very flamable when exposed to welding/cutting temps. The flare on brake lines is a special double flare where the tube is first folded in on itself and then flared. This requires a special tool. The reason for the double flare is that it keeps the tube from spliting along the seam. I'd recommend replacing the line with new or good used. A micky mouse patch might you 30 miles--or it might not. Ya pays ya money and ya takes chances. Good luck
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Old 09-21-2013, 04:33 PM   #3
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How do I say this without sounding like an asshole? This is clearly a rhetorical question. Here it goes. Dude, you have no business touching anything on that brake system. You clearly have no idea what you are doing and are going to hurt or kill your kids or someone else on the road. If you want to cut costs, disconnect the broken section and take it to a shop that can make you a new one including duplicating the bends. Then you can put it back on. You will still need to bleed the brakes. Go to a truck parts store. If they have the line, they can tell you who can bend it for you. Stay away from the hardware store.

This is a little more important than where to install a wood stove or should you build your bed out of 2x4 or 2x6.
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Re: 1997 Ford B-800 brake line repair

I would have to agree with CrazyCal on this one. Brakes are nothing to fool with without adequate knowledge.
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Old 09-21-2013, 05:30 PM   #5
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Re: 1997 Ford B-800 brake line repair

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How do I say this without sounding like an asshole? This is clearly a rhetorical question. Here it goes. Dude, you have no business touching anything on that brake system. You clearly have no idea what you are doing and are going to hurt or kill your kids or someone else on the road. If you want to cut costs, disconnect the broken section and take it to a shop that can make you a new one including duplicating the bends. Then you can put it back on. You will still need to bleed the brakes. Go to a truck parts store. If they have the line, they can tell you who can bend it for you. Stay away from the hardware store.

This is a little more important than where to install a wood stove or should you build your bed out of 2x4 or 2x6.
Actually I was just brainstorming and saying what was on my mind (so it wasn't practical, so what) and otherwise was just looking for practical ideas on who to talk to for parts/help. I have plenty of experience working on automotive brake systems, I'm just new to truck repair and new to the area so I've yet to find a place that can provide parts or labor.
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Re: 1997 Ford B-800 brake line repair

I knew you'd be butthurt. You don't weld automtive brake lines either. I think my suggestion would be the least expensive while still being safe, but it's your bus so the final decision is yours.

I was going to say Christmas is just around the corner and you could put it on your wish list for Santa but I'm not going to. Besides, I heard he got tired of dealing with skoolies.
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I knew you'd be butthurt. You don't weld automtive brake lines either. I think my suggestion would be the least expensive while still being safe, but it's your bus so the final decision is yours.

I was going to say Christmas is just around the corner and you could put it on your wish list for Santa but I'm not going to. Besides, I heard he got tired of dealing with skoolies.
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I knew you'd be butthurt. You don't weld automtive brake lines either. I think my suggestion would be the least expensive while still being safe, but it's your bus so the final decision is yours.

I was going to say Christmas is just around the corner and you could put it on your wish list for Santa but I'm not going to. Besides, I heard he got tired of dealing with skoolies.
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A little funnin. No harm meant. I was angry at first but I'm over it. I have a tendency of getting angry when two things happen(actually more) on the forum. The first is when someone new comes on and starts asking for donations, money or whatever you want to call it. The second is when someone does or suggests doing something unsafe that might cause you to run into me or some other dummy that's just minding their own business. I understand money being tight but some things you can't corners on. I'm sorry if I made you mad. Please fix your brake problem correctly.
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:18 AM   #9
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I knew you'd be butthurt. You don't weld automtive brake lines either. I think my suggestion would be the least expensive while still being safe, but it's your bus so the final decision is yours.

I was going to say Christmas is just around the corner and you could put it on your wish list for Santa but I'm not going to. Besides, I heard he got tired of dealing with skoolies.
So friendly! =)

A little funnin. No harm meant. I was angry at first but I'm over it. I have a tendency of getting angry when two things happen(actually more) on the forum. The first is when someone new comes on and starts asking for donations, money or whatever you want to call it. The second is when someone does or suggests doing something unsafe that might cause you to run into me or some other dummy that's just minding their own business. I understand money being tight but some things you can't corners on. I'm sorry if I made you mad. Please fix your brake problem correctly.

Well then maybe you'll offer a donation to the fix-my-bus fund, so I can get it repaired? =P I'm just anxious because it's the weekend and places are all closed.
I wonder if super glue will work?

Seriously, I found where the line disconnects and will try taking it off tomorrow.... And will call on Monday at some truck shops I found. I am imagining that it's easier/better to get a new brake line fitted than trying to salvage a line off a junk bus (the odds being low of finding such).
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Re: 1997 Ford B-800 brake line repair

now you want money, I already saved your life.
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