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Old 12-18-2016, 11:59 AM   #1
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Looking into buying a 1999 blue bird with t444e with the mt643 4 speed transmission. The odometer says it only has 85,000 on it? Could be possible bus is from a small town in montana. Just looking for input on this particular bus.

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Old 12-18-2016, 01:02 PM   #2
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Great transmission, meh engine, imho.
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Old 12-18-2016, 01:10 PM   #3
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Great transmission, meh engine, imho.

engine is oerfectly fine.. easy to find parts for.. similar enough to the ford 7.3 Powerstroke that anyone can work on it..

not real powerful but with a 643 it will do fine..

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Old 12-18-2016, 01:49 PM   #4
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Will a dt engine bolt up to this tranny. And how hard would it be to get the motor mounts right for the swap if a guy was to go this route.

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Old 12-18-2016, 02:07 PM   #5
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What are some common oil leaks on the 643 and the t444

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Old 12-18-2016, 02:08 PM   #6
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Will a dt engine bolt up to this tranny. And how hard would it be to get the motor mounts right for the swap if a guy was to go this route.

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it would but you'll have some mods to make for sure... DT-466 and T-444E are very different engines.. you may have to put different springs in the front as the DT-466 is a heavier engine..

theres a guy on youtube who swapped aT-444E for aDT-360 (the 466 smaller cousin).. im not sure what work he had to do.. I remember it being a bit of a project but using parts from a donor bus helped him make it all work.

personally if you want a DT-466 bus id look to buy a DT-466 Bus off the bat.. you have the advantage you have not yet bought a bus so you can pass this one by and look for a DT-466 unit..

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Old 12-18-2016, 02:14 PM   #7
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When you buy a bus, you're mostly playing for the drivetrain anyways, buy one that has what you want in it.
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Old 12-18-2016, 02:23 PM   #8
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It really doesn't matter what motor just something that's been maintained. I'm very anal about up keep on maintenance and the bus won't be drove much I would guess not more than 5 or 6 thousand a year.

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Old 12-18-2016, 02:33 PM   #9
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I've heard the t444e is a little more pricey to repair/maintain but it's far from the worst. A bit underpowered probably. But if you just need to get there and you dont care if it's slow, I'm sure it'll get the job done just fine.

I personally like my all mechanical DT466 though, only 6 cylinders, no electronics to fail, it just goes and goes as long as you keep oil and coolant in it
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Old 12-18-2016, 02:37 PM   #10
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So I've read that the t444 is only a 200,000 mile engine is this true? I would like to get an honest opinion on how long the life span is.

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Old 12-18-2016, 02:45 PM   #11
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Maybe I'll try and upgrade to a dt down the road. But for now I think I'll stick to the t444. Any thoughts on a 2003 dt motor are they as good as the old ones. I do have a chance to buy one for 3,000 it has 130,000 on it but it has an issue with cutting out at random times. They guy said when it happens turn the key off and back on its fine. So I don't know might be more of a project then I would like to get into. Any thoughts on what could be wrong with it is it a common problem?

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Old 12-18-2016, 03:48 PM   #12
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What is the oil change interval with t444e? How many miles or months?

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