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Old 10-05-2016, 07:41 PM   #11
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Matty is worse than you think... ive been watching it.. the eyewall may actually make landfall in daytona.. some of the models are bringing it inland farther now... even areas around orlando are expected to get bad now... thats inland quite a ways...

if it got hot suddenly, it makes me wonder if it already had a headgasket problem from the time you started... the head biolts on the VT-365 vs the ford 6.0 were supposedly stronger.. however its still only 4 bolts per cylinder instead of 6

when it got hot did you shut it down or did it shut itself down? the VT-365 should reduce its own power when it gets to about 230 or so and sound lots of warning alarms in the cab...

I dont know any dealers around... if the IH dealer says the engine is bad they have to have given a reason...

if that darn storm wasnt coming.. im in st pete and I have the interface that I believe we could read the computer out of that thing and see why it is going no-start..

if I had to "GUESS" the failure id say coolant was lost into the oil thinning it out to the point that it cant build enough pressure from the HPOP to operate the injectors so the computer wont let it start... but thats totally a GUESS.. without seeing it I cant make any real theories..

of course it wouldnt start when it was Hot because the temperature was so high the computer wouldnt let it..

did it just crank after it cooled down fully?

-Christopher
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Old 10-05-2016, 08:02 PM   #12
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Well, you guys were right.. Driving it across route 4 it overheated, I pulled over couldnt restart it even though I had compression, so I towed it to an International dealer in Daytona Beach who wants to charge me $25K for a reman engine installed the same vt365.. What a nightmare.. Does anyone have any suggestions??
Ditch it and move on, that's exactly what I'd do.
Buses can be costly lessons. My fist one was a major disaster and cost me big $$$ for nothing.
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Old 10-05-2016, 08:05 PM   #13
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Matty is worse than you think... ive been watching it.. the eyewall may actually make landfall in daytona.. some of the models are bringing it inland farther now... even areas around orlando are expected to get bad now... thats inland quite a ways...

if it got hot suddenly, it makes me wonder if it already had a headgasket problem from the time you started... the head biolts on the VT-365 vs the ford 6.0 were supposedly stronger.. however its still only 4 bolts per cylinder instead of 6

when it got hot did you shut it down or did it shut itself down? the VT-365 should reduce its own power when it gets to about 230 or so and sound lots of warning alarms in the cab...

I dont know any dealers around... if the IH dealer says the engine is bad they have to have given a reason...

if that darn storm wasnt coming.. im in st pete and I have the interface that I believe we could read the computer out of that thing and see why it is going no-start..

if I had to "GUESS" the failure id say coolant was lost into the oil thinning it out to the point that it cant build enough pressure from the HPOP to operate the injectors so the computer wont let it start... but thats totally a GUESS.. without seeing it I cant make any real theories..

of course it wouldnt start when it was Hot because the temperature was so high the computer wouldnt let it..

did it just crank after it cooled down fully?

-Christopher
I finally got word from my boss that we won't be mowing yards tomorrow, lol.
Gonna have to keep a close eye on this storm. Hopefully not another Charlie.
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Old 10-05-2016, 08:15 PM   #14
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I finally got word from my boss that we won't be mowing yards tomorrow, lol.
Gonna have to keep a close eye on this storm. Hopefully not another Charlie.

ive got my place here in st pete if you guys need to bolt.. sleeping bags and takeout.. since I havent equipped this kitchen.. lol..

we are supposed to get nothing more than a few showers and a stiff sea-breeze here..

I wouldnt be ready to ditch that bus just yet.. its quite possible the dealer is giving hom a crock and its a simple fan clutch or clogged radiator.. IHC are known for over-temp on the highway with that half-a-rad thing..

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Old 10-05-2016, 08:59 PM   #15
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Thanks Christopher, Really nice offer, thank you. After it cooled down it cranked over and almost started with some silicone spray that a mobile truck repair guy used , I guess they use that instead of either these days. I'll try and upload the estimate that IH sent me online..
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ive got my place here in st pete if you guys need to bolt.. sleeping bags and takeout.. since I havent equipped this kitchen.. lol..

we are supposed to get nothing more than a few showers and a stiff sea-breeze here..

I wouldnt be ready to ditch that bus just yet.. its quite possible the dealer is giving hom a crock and its a simple fan clutch or clogged radiator.. IHC are known for over-temp on the highway with that half-a-rad thing..

-Christopher
I'm gonna keep an eye on this, get everything taken care of that I can. I think we may be in an ok place we're really far inland. My roof and windows are my biggest worry.
If the thing shifts any more to the left we may have to take you up on the VERY kind offer!
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Old 10-05-2016, 09:24 PM   #17
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Thanks Christopher, Really nice offer, thank you. After it cooled down it cranked over and almost started with some silicone spray that a mobile truck repair guy used , I guess they use that instead of either these days. I'll try and upload the estimate that IH sent me online..

ether in a diesel V-8 is a no-no ..using PB-blaster is less flammable than ether but will still fire an engine..

still almpst sounds like the computer was not letting it run.. if you have compression and fuel at the right time it will run..

when you crank do you get any white smoke out the exhaust?

im not ready to shot that engine dead till the computer is ruled out as a cause for the no-start.

what dealer did it go to, Rush? they are Notorious for being royal PITA...
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