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Old 01-07-2016, 05:21 AM   #1
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300k miles

is tht to many miles to start with in a conversion. are the risks just too high for trouble in the near future. found the bus after months of searching however its got just under 300k miles and it has me worried. its a hard model to find which is why im tempted to to just buy it. it runs and works according to the ad.
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Old 01-07-2016, 05:49 AM   #2
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Well, is it a gasser or diesel? Previous owner(s)? Has the engine been rebuilt? There's quite a bit of information lacking to make a fair assessment of the situation in order to help. Pics would help as well......
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Old 01-07-2016, 06:49 AM   #3
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300K miles is a lot of miles for a school bus.

It would be helpful to know what the history is of this bus and which power package it has.

If the bus was used in normal daily route service a T444(E) and a Cummins B/C-series is going to be getting to the end of the expected service life. A DT466 probably about 80% of the service life. A big cam Cummins or 2-cycle DD about 50%.

If the bus was used as a trip bus in MT or WY and the bus is only ten years old it should still have a lot of life left in it.
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Old 01-07-2016, 09:26 AM   #4
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My bus is running superbly at a quarter million miles. Purred the whole way home to FL from KY.

edit to add- DT466 w/643 is what my bus came with.
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Old 01-07-2016, 09:39 AM   #5
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i got my bus @ 300k and have put another 15k on it since owning it. i don't think i'll put more than another 100k on it, but if it runs forever, i just may. the cost of running it seems to keep its mileage down.

its a cummins 5.9 with an at545. the transmission is at the useful end of life and will be replaced soon, but the motor seems real strong.

i think some oil tests will help you in the judging the life left in your engine.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:49 PM   #6
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there very little info,
Engine: Cummins 5.9 B Series Diesel
Transmission: AT545 Automatic
1997.
im assuming in was just a school bus on washington state
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im going to assume for a standard bus its prob on its last stretch of life, assuming parts are gonna start dying soon.
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Old 01-07-2016, 05:17 PM   #8
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Go on publicsurplus.com and Washington state has about ten buses up for
auction the best ones are the Bluebird All Americans with the 8.3 Cummins
and the MD3060 Allison transmission. They have basement storage and appear
to be rust free.
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Old 01-07-2016, 05:33 PM   #9
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Yep, I'd love to have one of those!
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Old 01-07-2016, 08:51 PM   #10
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Thts exactly where I was looking. I've been looking for a tc1000 for a while. So if anyone has a better understanding of bluebirds lmk what u think of starting a $25k+ project on a 300k miles bus.
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