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03-11-2017, 07:14 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 16
Year: 2004
Coachwork: International
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55 gallon drums under floor
What is a good way to keep them secure?
Will they be high enough off the ground when mounted on the outside?
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03-11-2017, 07:59 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evolutionmoonbus
What is a good way to keep them secure?
Will they be high enough off the ground when mounted on the outside?
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I have not done it yet, but have seen a couple of vids on YouTube and threads on here.
They fit pretty well between the frame rails of a rear engine and outside the frame rails on fe and conventional busses. They were oriented on their sides and built into a cradle that was secured to the ribs from the floor above.
If that helps.
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03-11-2017, 08:00 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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OneNationUnderGoat are the authority on this subject.
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03-11-2017, 08:08 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
OneNationUnderGoat are the authority on this subject.
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I will search his posts out and pester him as needed when I get to that point.
I am planning on using a 55 for my gray tank and a 25 for a black tank. Where they are going to live is yet to be determined. I was supposed to pick up my bus Monday, but scheduling issues have it pushed off for about 2 weeks
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03-11-2017, 09:34 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 16
Year: 2004
Coachwork: International
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Those are some cool goats!
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03-11-2017, 10:27 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
Posts: 751
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You might check out the protective frame work around bus fuel tanks. Buy for less than you can build or have it built and mounts to the frame and stronger than anything hung from rods. You will never drag them off.
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Former owner of a 1969 F600 Skoolie.
1998 Ford B700 Thomas body 65 passenger. 5.9 Cummins 12 valve with MT643 Transmission 123,000 miles.
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03-11-2017, 02:49 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 16
Year: 2004
Coachwork: International
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Versatile
You might check out the protective frame work around bus fuel tanks. Buy for less than you can build or have it built and mounts to the frame and stronger than anything hung from rods. You will never drag them off.
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Thanks V, The tanks I want to put under the bus will be for black water, and one for grey water. My main concern is how much clearance is minimum? I assume no lower than the rear pumpkin. The last thing I want is to leave a trail of poo... These are 55 gallon drums I got for free that I would love to use. Maybe I will have to go to the junk yard and find a bunch of plastic gas tanks.
The guy I bought this bus off of (custom coach shop owner) said to just put them under the bed and get a side flush toilet ,but maximum space is very important and I don't want my bed that high.
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03-11-2017, 02:56 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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One of the many very nicely built parts of Sojourner's conversion...
http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/so...html#post95930
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03-11-2017, 03:06 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Pensacola and Crystal River, FL
Posts: 647
Year: 1998
Coachwork: AmTran International
Chassis: 3800
Engine: Navistar 7.6L
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keep in mind that a 55 gallon drum will occupy the same space as a 75 gallon rectangular tank of the same overall dimensions.
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03-11-2017, 03:08 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 16
Year: 2004
Coachwork: International
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rameses
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Nice! That is what I'm looking for.
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03-11-2017, 09:00 PM
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#11
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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I full-timed for a year and 1/2 with plastic drums. Mine fit nicely between the rails, and I strapped them to eye-bolts bolted thru the floor.
I did lose the center strap a couple times on the rear tank as it scraped on some gnarly terrain - I do a good bit of off-roading
More details
Plumbing a freaking school bus | 3 Years
I plan to at least use the same drum for grey water this current build
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03-12-2017, 10:08 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 8
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Great Idea
I need to try this or figure away on my 1988 chevy/ Thomas bus. thanks
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03-13-2017, 08:58 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
Posts: 751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evolutionmoonbus
Thanks V, The tanks I want to put under the bus will be for black water, and one for grey water. My main concern is how much clearance is minimum? I assume no lower than the rear pumpkin. The last thing I want is to leave a trail of poo... These are 55 gallon drums I got for free that I would love to use. Maybe I will have to go to the junk yard and find a bunch of plastic gas tanks.
The guy I bought this bus off of (custom coach shop owner) said to just put them under the bed and get a side flush toilet ,but maximum space is very important and I don't want my bed that high.
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My bus has about a 100 gallon tank. I have thought about repurposing the fuel tank as a grey water tanks.
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Former owner of a 1969 F600 Skoolie.
1998 Ford B700 Thomas body 65 passenger. 5.9 Cummins 12 valve with MT643 Transmission 123,000 miles.
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03-13-2017, 09:01 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Versatile
My bus has about a 100 gallon tank. I have thought about repurposing the fuel tank as a grey water tanks.
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As long as you don't plan to drive it?
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03-13-2017, 10:42 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
Posts: 751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dredman
As long as you don't plan to drive it?
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My goof. Not at all. Need more coffee. Just add another fuel tank assembly on the right side aft of the stock set up. Convert that one to greay water and while you are at it you could put another on the other side and go black water. Or both on the left side. They bolt to the frame.
There are also 40 gallon ones out there on older buses from 60's,70's.They also have protection around them.Possibilities are endless. These tanks and mounts can be real money savers.
Crawl under a bus or two and get some ideas. Memorise what the underneath of yours is and while looking under a donor bus the put those thoughts together.
Looking at mine i think it looks strong enough to smash the bus down on the steel frame and never rupture the tank.
Fuel or Stool is all the same.
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Former owner of a 1969 F600 Skoolie.
1998 Ford B700 Thomas body 65 passenger. 5.9 Cummins 12 valve with MT643 Transmission 123,000 miles.
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03-13-2017, 10:52 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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never thought about adding a tank? and they come with a solid mounting system...wonder what $ they would go for?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Versatile
Fuel or Stool is all the same.
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That is pretty awesome
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03-13-2017, 01:41 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
Posts: 751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dredman
never thought about adding a tank? and they come with a solid mounting system...wonder what $ they would go for?
That is pretty awesome
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You would need to buy them for scrap price. Not as used parts for a bus in a school bus fleet.
I think about $150.00 each including the tank. A rip off at $500.00 per tank but you will still be way ahead of the game. Also i think a large tank will be baffled. They bolt in to the frame with triangle bolt patterns on mine. A plus would the be unbolt it and save the bolts. You cold also add another huge fuel tank instead of sanitary. A wild idea would be to have a float inside that tells you the level in the grey water tank. Just thought baffles will rule out the black water plan.
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Former owner of a 1969 F600 Skoolie.
1998 Ford B700 Thomas body 65 passenger. 5.9 Cummins 12 valve with MT643 Transmission 123,000 miles.
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03-13-2017, 03:50 PM
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#18
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
Posts: 751
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Maybe you don't want to use the fuel tank. Still you can use the steel frame work and add in 2 50 gallons tanks. I think mine measures 26" wide by 16" tall. I think you could run a large dozer over mine and not crush it.You will not injure it if you hit and drag a low spot.
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Former owner of a 1969 F600 Skoolie.
1998 Ford B700 Thomas body 65 passenger. 5.9 Cummins 12 valve with MT643 Transmission 123,000 miles.
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03-14-2017, 08:17 PM
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#19
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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I used a 112gl fuel tank for grey, fit between the frame rails real nice, I also took another 112gl fuel tank cut it in half & removed another 3in off one half then welded 1/4in plate on the bottom. Fit perfectly where the muffler used to be
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03-14-2017, 08:19 PM
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#20
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Grey, using a Macerating pump to suck waste out
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