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Old 11-14-2014, 09:02 PM   #11
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Re: Acetylene Torch?

I disagree with some of the posters here…. Unless you are doing very very very small gauge metal I would not go with a 120v model. Most of them won't get enough penetration to make a good weld on some thicker stuff that you will need to do on some conversion stuff on a bus.

To me the only thing a 120v model mig is good for is sheet metal work. Yeah you can do some bigger stuff with it but I feel you can always turn a bigger machine down or change wire size to do smaller stuff but you can never make a smaller machine any bigger than it is capable giving you at its max.

I am sure you can find one sooner or later but you need to plan on spending a good 3-400 on a used unit. I would also stick with a major brand…. miller, lincoln, hobart (which is made by miller). If you buy a major name you will be able to have it serviced… parts…. and well have a quality product.

My smaller mig is a miller challenger 172 model. I think it was made in the mid 80s….and its still working and going very strong. I use it more than the miller 250x that I have for really big stuff.

Just curious what all do you think you will use it for?
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Old 11-15-2014, 10:04 AM   #12
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Re: Acetylene Torch?

Not sure of what your local town/city has available. Around here we have rental yards that you can rent small mig welders from. Usually by the hour day or week type rates. Way better than rushing to buy a machine your not sure of. Learning on somebody elses machine will teach you what to look for in your future purchase.
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Actually hobart is parent company of miller
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Isn't that backward?
I thought Miller was the parent company...
Either way- if buying an acetylene torch, I'd highly recommend the Radnor kit from Airgas.
I got the medium duty, but I wish I'd gotten the bigger one.
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The most common and biggest mistake people make when buying their first welder is buying a 120 volt model.

Buy a entry level Hobart 240 volt.

Around $1000 Canadian, and is able to still use 120 volt if the 240 is not available.

Also forget about cutting torches. Plasma is the only way to go.

By the time you pay for the tanks, buy the torch, and the cutting gas, your at the cost of a plasma.

With the plasma you will never buy gas again.

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Most hobbyists like myself have very definite reasons why they WANT a 120v. For anything on a bus, a $500 Hobart is PLENTY of welder...
Plasma's aren't as versatile as acetylene torches.
My torch setup was 500 with tanks and gas... Refills for the gas are pretty cheap.
The torch is uber-portable and can be used almost anywhere. The plasma requires electricity and air.
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Old 07-17-2015, 04:22 PM   #17
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Your gas and bottles must be half the cost we pay here.

Like everything else.

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Yeah to buy the gas and the bottles at my local Airgas was around $200. But refills are around $35 for oxygen and acetylene combined.
I'd love to get a small plasma, but I find the oxyacetylene to be the "essential" of the two.
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Hi all! I been reading skoolie over 2 yrs now, computer stuff frustates me still learning. Awhile back I was lookN to buy a welder after much research and lookN up history I ran across Hobart being the parent company of miller, this surprised me as I remember Hobart being big in resturant equip. so after reading this thread I thought I would share that Info. After figuring out how to post, alil while latter I heard a noise from this puter, this morning I figured out that noise was an e-mail alert. Thanks Y'all I'll keep readN I've learned alot here.
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