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Old 07-21-2016, 07:05 AM   #31
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Folks put too much faith in school bus off road capability.
They actually get stuck pretty easily. Ask hank.
they can but putting Snow drives on does help.. which is what I have on mine and they are pretty knarly knobby tires... sure they have some whine on the highway.. but its a school bus.. its already noisy....

I already tested mine in the soft ground a bit as I went to a festival got caught in a massive rainstorm which turned the sort-of-gravel lot i was parked into a messy soft and muddy crap... there were people in regular cars and 2 wheel drive pickups stuck and I drove the ole Carpenter right out of there.. i was more concerned about my AT545 maxxing its torque converter stall than I was about the tires getting stuck.. I did have some weight over the wheels as i had about 10 soggy wet people with soggy wet umbrellas and bag chairs and such in the bus...

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Old 07-21-2016, 07:12 AM   #32
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If you get a bus with an air ride setup (or just air brakes), I believe they make air-locking rear differentials for these axles. Something like that will greatly reduce the likelihood of getting stuck. Just remember to unlock it for road use.
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Old 07-21-2016, 07:32 AM   #33
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If you will be moving a lot, go with the bus. Otherwise, a trailer / 5er will be the better setup. The key to off-road is ground clearance and airing down the tires, even the trailer. Get a compressor and a spare for getting back on the highway.
I have a 3/4 ton 4x4 and 29' 5er, does well off road. Flipped the axels on the 5er for decent clearance.
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Old 07-21-2016, 07:40 AM   #34
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Stepper motor and slide for moving the leveling valve up and down. Certainly easy. Should get about 1/2 ride height again height wise

The ride quality argument about progressive vs fixed rate spring is a whole different thread on it's own.
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Old 07-21-2016, 08:52 AM   #35
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If you will be moving a lot, go with the bus. Otherwise, a trailer / 5er will be the better setup. The key to off-road is ground clearance and airing down the tires, even the trailer. Get a compressor and a spare for getting back on the highway.
I have a 3/4 ton 4x4 and 29' 5er, does well off road. Flipped the axels on the 5er for decent clearance.
what do you use for a compressor for your bus tires... my shop compressor does great but becausde I plan to do a lot of ohio to florida, texas, etc travelling even in winter i will be airing up and down tires to keep with the temperatures.. I need a compressor to carry along that can handle the big tires... or I was thinking of making myself shop air riught off of the bus air system compressor..
-Christopher
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Old 07-21-2016, 11:33 AM   #36
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Lockers are available for most skoolie diffs. Out of my price range though, I believe. Adding an LSD is in the budget. Knobbed tires instead of ribbed tires also makes a huge difference. They're more aggressive than typical snow tires. They are noisier and get worse mileage, however.

I would probably not go with a 5th wheel. I think I'll need storage in the truck to make up what I'd lose from the skoolie. If I went the 5th wheel route, I'd probably convert a class 6 truck to 5th wheel duty. Flipping the axles/swapping tires out should get me the 8" minimum ground clearance I'm looking for. Not sure I have the time or budget to find and convert a 24-26' trailer and a truck.

I'd rather have the skoolie. Just have to figure out how to make it work safely.
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Old 07-21-2016, 11:35 AM   #37
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I have a Viair 450P and also Harbor Ft POS as a backup. The Viair takes an hour to get all 8 tires up to 50 - 70 psi. Reports say it won't start above 115 though.
I've only done a serious air down once just to see, most spots that I can get the rig into have been hard packed. I don't have a winch to make me bold.
I may end up rebuilding my 5er ( it's an '89) , beef up the frame and suspension, bigger tanks for boondocking, instead of doing a skoolie.
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Old 07-21-2016, 11:36 AM   #38
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If you will be moving a lot, go with the bus. Otherwise, a trailer / 5er will be the better setup. The key to off-road is ground clearance and airing down the tires, even the trailer. Get a compressor and a spare for getting back on the highway.
I have a 3/4 ton 4x4 and 29' 5er, does well off road. Flipped the axels on the 5er for decent clearance.
I plan on moving at least monthly. That's why I started with the skoolie and not a trailer.
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Old 07-21-2016, 11:38 AM   #39
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Would you like me to post some pictures of what I did? The base of the unit to the seat frames mount and it's controlled movement is how I engineered it so it doesn't pull the Channel out of the wall.
I would love to see what your describing.
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Old 07-21-2016, 11:43 AM   #40
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check out custom coach in columbusd ohio area... they have done some fantastic conversions in the past... mainly ive seen trip busses from them but they may very well do a skoolie..

columbus ohio is not that far from the east coast corridor... its a quick airplane flight and easy drive if comin g to get progress reports on a cxonversion... plus I live here in columbus..

they did get absorbed by farber specialty.. but i believe they still do bus conversions..

Farber Specialty Vehicles - Custom Coach

-Christopher
Spoke with a gentleman who chuckled at the idea of a skoolie and gave me a price over my budget just to convert the shell. :-/
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