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Old 02-16-2009, 07:14 PM   #1
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Advice Requested: Interested in a 67 Gillig 220 Cummins

Hey everyone,
I had a bus a while back, then got rid of it. Now I've been looking for a new one and found a 67 Gillig with the mid-mount 220 Cummins 12.1L and 5 speed manual non-synchro. It only has 80k miles and had (according to the owner) major freshening up but no total rebuilds.

Does anyone have a very old Gillig? What do you think?

Anyone driven a non-synchro transmission? Difficult? I've driven box trucks with manual transmissions, but I know this is another animal.

Any Gillig-specific weak spots to watch out for?

Any other opinions would be appreciated.
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:25 AM   #2
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Re: Advice Requested: Interested in a 67 Gillig 220 Cummins

The biggest thing to watch is where the roof meets the sides, right at the drip rail. If the roof hasn't been maintained, they can rust REAL BAD there. I've seen some that could probably be opened up with a sharp stick. The rust should be evident, bubbles, discoloration etc. Just look close. Check the wheel wells also. The 220 Cummins is a good motor, has a rep to be hard to start if it's cool or cold. Everything else is standard.....check for air leaks, fluid leaks, clutch operation etc. Gilligs are awesome solid buses. As good as a Crown (or better). All the Gilligs I've seen have ridiculous numbers on the odometers, all under 100,000. I'm sure they re-set them when the engine is replaced, or other major servive. Those are NOT actual miles.
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