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Old 04-28-2005, 11:39 PM   #11
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Hi Pixie, I checked out the Kelterman website and they have a nice 2 bag system there for motorhomes that looks like the real deal. Yes I believe it would make a big difference. 2000 is a little rich for me too, though so I guess I'll keep looking. The trucks and trailers that I've been checking out have systems that can be adapted to a skoolie, but you would need to fabricate a mounting system at the very least. Some welding would be involved. So it isn't for a novice. One other thing that you may consider is multiple shocks. I have seen alot of 4 wheeel drive pick-ups set up with 4 and even 6 shocks per axle. Again though shock mounts would have to be made. Good Luck! Keep us posted.
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Old 04-29-2005, 04:59 PM   #12
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Here's my $0.02

I'm not sure if adding lots of shockes would really improve the ride of most skoolies.

Standard shocks do not add any lift or stiffness to a vehicle. They are not spring loaded. Pretty much all a shock does is keep the springs from bouncing uncontrollably.

You can take a shock and compress it with your bare hands as there are no great forces keeping the shock fully extended.

Struts and air shocks are a different story...

The suspension problems on a skoolie appears to be that the springs are too stiff, and not able to flex enough due to a lack of weight in the vehicle.

For air bags to make the ride better they would have to overcome the problem the current suspension setup has: The new system would need to allow the frame to easily move up and down relative to the axle. It seems there are only two obvious solutions. Either: the air bags would need to slightly increase the height of the vehicle (overextending the springs a bit). Or, the springs would need at least one leaf removed.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:54 PM   #13
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I think removing a load spring is the cheapest way to go to soften the ride any spring shop can do this for a fraction of the money air ride would cost. Then I could see a higher quality shocks or extra shocks doing some good.
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Old 04-29-2005, 06:42 PM   #14
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Hey "u turn",
Sorry you did not post a name.

Do you think a just a 2 bag rear system in a bus would make a difference, or would it not be enough bags really to notice anything ?? ~Pix
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:55 PM   #15
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The Kelderman 2 bag system takes a different approach. The leaf springs are removed and the air bags become the spring part of the suspension.
I agree that the air bag system without leaf springs would be the best solution. I guess i neglected to think of that!

The air bag only setup would accomplish the goal of fixing the current suspension issue since it would allow the frame to easily move up and down relative to the axle.
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Old 08-23-2005, 08:36 PM   #16
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Softer ride.

Try oiling or greasing the leaf springs. They have to slide back and forth on each other when you hit a bump. Oil will make them slide much easier. I didn't believe that it would make that much differents untill I tried it.
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Old 08-24-2005, 12:16 PM   #17
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re: Leaf Springs

I too look at a softer ride.

Anyways I just thought I would add that leaf springs in skoolies do fail. I am at the end of a 5500 km trip and broke the front retaining leaf (the one that holds all the others together). This bus is only an 85 so it was not rusty or anything. Although the big suprise was that it was a front leaf. Oh well. Just thought I would throw this info out there. -Richard
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Old 04-24-2006, 12:31 PM   #18
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I am new to these boards as I only purchased my bus last week, its a 1985 International S1700 and we have already started disassembling it to add the airride FRONT and REAR, yes you read that right we are lowering a School Bus and adding air ride at all 4 corners.....we are using a similar setup to that of a 18 Wheeler in the rear and adding a 4 link suspension to the front....
I will keep you guys updated on out progress as soon as I can take some pics.
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has anyone checked out these guys system?

I found this site on the web and it looked cool but I've no idea how expensive it is: http://www.hendrickson-intl.com/pdfs/Tr ... 45_124.pdf
Looks kinda pricy to me
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I replaced my rear springs with lighter weight packs and added helper air bags. My goal was to fix a leaning bus and also to improve the ride quality. I failed at fixing the lean and I think the ride is a little better but haven't really driven it much empty to determine if I've realized my second goal. You can see pictures here:

http://trx.punknet.org/Gallery/Skoolie2006

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