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Old 09-09-2016, 07:43 PM   #1
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Air tools are amazing!

Y'all probably knew this one already. But, maybe the people young or new like me could learn a thing or two.

I hammered and chiseled probably 1000 rivets by myself at first for the interior. When I got to removing a lot of rivets from the exterior a $20 air hammer from HF sliced through like butter on the rivets.
Can't believe some people on here told me that I should just get by the old fashioned way. Oh well
Time>money even to a broke guy like me!

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Y'all probably knew this one already. But, maybe the people young or new like me could learn a thing or two.

I hammered and chiseled probably 1000 rivets by myself at first for the interior. When I got to removing a lot of rivets from the exterior a $20 air hammer from HF sliced through like butter on the rivets.
Can't believe some people on here told me that I should just get by the old fashioned way. Oh well
Time>money even to a broke guy like me!
I used to cringe when nat would go on about how air tools were the scourge of the earth. Good riddance!

Why anyone would want to manually hammer and chisel the rivets, I'll never know.
BTW- my stepdad hasn't been available for the steel price. Monday, I promise!
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Old 09-10-2016, 06:08 AM   #3
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Fun fact, he moved to north port FL. Came and saw my bus, interesting guy
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Hold on, hold on, hold on... Nat moved to Florida?! And you saw him? That is strange and unexpected..
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Hold on, hold on, hold on... Nat moved to Florida?! And you saw him? That is strange and unexpected..
To be closer to EastCoast... Would be my guess!





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Unless it's an imposter!
Added me on Facebook and called me up to come check out the bus, very nice guy to me.
I wasn't around when all the hoohah on the site happened and what not though.
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Old 09-10-2016, 11:41 AM   #7
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I used to cringe when nat would go on about how air tools were the scourge of the earth. Good riddance!

Why anyone would want to manually hammer and chisel the rivets, I'll never know.
BTW- my stepdad hasn't been available for the steel price. Monday, I promise!
Sounds good man! Thank you so much, look forward to heading up that way! Going to Universal whichever day I come!
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Old 09-10-2016, 12:03 PM   #8
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Unless it's an imposter!
Added me on Facebook and called me up to come check out the bus, very nice guy to me.
I wasn't around when all the hoohah on the site happened and what not though.
What? Wait!!! This site has hoohah's?!?!??
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Old 09-10-2016, 02:33 PM   #9
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eh.. I liked the guy. He was a practical thinker, though occasionally abrasive.
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Old 09-10-2016, 05:32 PM   #10
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Pro Nat guy here: I look over his advise and love his "my way is the best way" method of going about things, makes it very easy to be decisive when he narrows down the vast array of options down to his singular approach. I'm bummed he stooped using this site around the time I started.

From a distance his abbrasiveness always cracks me up, every time I see a crown I giggle about his crown circle jerk comment he brought up in someones thread. He's not always right (like his views towards grounding in the RV electrical systems thread), but I really appreciate everything he's contributed to the site. I think he's a very knowledgeable person and I am glad to hear he's in good health down in Florida. I was concerned that he might've gotten sick from burning poop, disappeared to Papa his newborn or something something.. I do hope he updates his 4 seasons prime build thread.

But I didn't come here to kiss Nat butt, I came here to agree.

Air tools are awesome!
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Old 09-10-2016, 07:45 PM   #11
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jazty and TAOLIK summed it up well (about Nat). I owe the guy a "beverage of choice" or something for the scaffolding roof raising idea. Definitely thinking outside of the box, and it really did work out well for me.

Oh, and air tools. Yes. Though it can sometimes be difficult to determine whether to buy the Harbor Freight junk tool or pony up some money for a pro equivalent. I wasn't impressed by the torque from a Campbell Hausfeld impact wrench (the Japan-built Husky I replaced it with is much better). But my Harbor Freight air chisel has been through countless hours of work and still works great.

Unfortunately the first piece of an air tools collection (the compressor) can be expensive with the "buy once, cry once" method of buying a good one the first time around. Speaking of which, two friends of mine have recently bought California Air Tools compressors. One was on Amazon and the other special-ordered through a Home Depot store. The compressor cost a little more than others with comparable tank size, but they tended to supply just a little more CFM and they're significantly quieter than the cheaper stuff that's in stock. Definitely consider that brand and especially compare the noise ratings when choosing a compressor.
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Nat was the first to welcome me here, perhaps it was just timing, fate, whathaveya...
His ways were different, and yes kinda single minded... But it is what it is.


Anyway, I've got an old 100# propane cylinder... Why can't I use that as a ballast air tank to hold the compressed air that my small pancake compressor generates?

Just fill it with water and weld two nipples and a draincock on propane tank(by a certified pipe welder), with some air line disconnects...then connect the pancake IN and my air tools OUT, then when the pressure in propane tank drops, the compressor kicks on.

Could even rig it same way from air compressor on bus
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If nat is in FL it only proves what a liar he is.
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Old 09-10-2016, 10:08 PM   #14
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To be closer to EastCoast... Would be my guess!





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This thread turned out differently than I expected......

I have some opinions too. But I'll just let that be. Haha

And heck yeah air tools! It took three hours to take out the bolts on one seat by hand. And after doing that three times, I tried the air wrench. Twenty minutes total on the rest. My life motto after this build is "work smarter not harder." I think I've said that phrase about ten times this week.
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Old 09-11-2016, 06:40 AM   #16
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I have no idea who NAT is....

but I love air tools!! and busses with Air brakes are a perfect place to have air tools onboard and an air chuck to connect them to..

im not sure how i woulve gotten through some of the car restorations i did if i couldnt have just rapped on an air impact wremnch wit hthe air turned up to 150!! (maybe not great on the tool but sure got the bolt loose!)...

gonna come in handy when I go to replace the rear air springs on my bus too.. and the rear shocks.. those bolts look a little on the rusty side..

yeah air tools rock.. and they sound freakin cool and make me feel like im a big boy workin in a big boy shop with big boy toys!
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I love my air tools. I just wish I had a compressor that could spin them better.
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Old 09-11-2016, 06:07 PM   #18
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I love my air tools. I just wish I had a compressor that could spin them better.
me too.. but I made a 'Y' so i can run my 40 gallon compressor and my little pancake nailer compressor together so I get enough CFM to keep things like the die grinder spinning for at least longer...

I like how the air tools are physically smaller and fit into places better than my cordless ones do..

oh and cranking the air up to 150 to spin em wicked fast!

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I have no idea who NAT is....
I'm sure you can find Nat's posts all over any build preceding 2016. You can also follow his (haulted) build thread here.

He is well recognized as a very talented knowledgeable fellow who's intentions seem good. But many (like Eastcost) also have other opinions towards him. I'm sorry to bring Nat up again in this board, I am just a little sad I missed the era back when Nat frequented this board and preached his choir.
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