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Old 05-23-2016, 04:28 PM   #41
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My bus has a 5.9 and it towed our Suburban home through the mountains of WV just fine, if a little slow (due to the hills, not the load)... I've towed a travel trailer too and the bus doesn't even notice it back there.
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Old 05-23-2016, 04:37 PM   #42
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My bus has a 5.9 and it towed our Suburban home through the mountains of WV just fine, if a little slow (due to the hills, not the load)... I've towed a travel trailer too and the bus doesn't even notice it back there.
Wow! A suburban!! I think I'm convinced. I just don't want to be stuck going 30-40 mph on flat land. As long as she only huffs and puffs through the mountains I'm good. And I don't mind taking it slow up the hills of Seattle and such but I don't want to strain it too much and end up blowin somethin up 😂
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Old 05-23-2016, 04:50 PM   #43
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As a comparison, I drove 10-speed Freightliners for the last few years until I got into a Volvo with a 12-speed automatic. Now I'm passing everyone even climbing the hills! That doesn't mean I'm doing 65mph but it's gratifying when I'm toting 75k up the grade at 40mph while they're doing 30. Both models has engines rated at 455hp but the Volvo transmission has plenty of gears to choose from and that's going to make a bigger difference than raw HP.
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Old 05-23-2016, 05:24 PM   #44
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Many "yard jockey" tractors use the 5.9 engine as well. I've move plenty of heavily loaded (and often very much overloaded) storage trailers with 'em. Of course, I'm sure they are very geared down, many of these yard trucks never exceed 20-30 MPH in a parking lot. I do remember having one that had highway gearing (I'm told it would run 60+) but I never felt comfortable trying it in something that literally has no rear suspension. One hard bump and who knows which way you'll end up going?
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Old 05-23-2016, 05:47 PM   #45
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Yeah spotter tractors don't go fast but they do have pretty deep gearing.
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Old 05-23-2016, 09:29 PM   #46
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I was having the exact same problem as you. I started a list of things I needed to decide. Then I started researching one thing at a time and writing down my top few choices or pros and cons s of each. Of course everything you research leads to more questions so your list keeps getting bigger. Then when I found a bus I could go through my list. Things like How far away, if it was a salted road state, and tire age/recap where things I never would have remembered unless I wrote them down while doing my research.
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Old 05-23-2016, 09:34 PM   #47
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I was having the exact same problem as you. I started a list of things I needed to decide. Then I started researching one thing at a time and writing down my top few choices or pros and cons s of each. Of course everything you research leads to more questions so your list keeps getting bigger. Then when I found a bus I could go through my list. Things like How far away, if it was a salted road state, and tire age/recap where things I never would have remembered unless I wrote them down while doing my research.
You sound like me. I have lists for everything haha. I have my list of criteria and I'm not budging on a single requirement. We will go as far as we need to for the right total price but would like to keep it to Midwest or closer.
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Old 05-23-2016, 09:45 PM   #48
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I stayed pretty open minded when bus shopping. Condition, price, specs, it all varies. I'd take a nice bus with a preferable drivetrain but worn out tires over a lesser bus with nice ones.

Yeah tires are pricey, but they're great for peace of mind. Mine got me home from the school I bought the bus from. That's all I care to ask of at least 2 of them. Will probably jsut replace all 6 once the conversion is further along. Maybe buy myself some new tires for xmas.
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:04 PM   #49
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You sound like me. I have lists for everything haha. I have my list of criteria and I'm not budging on a single requirement. We will go as far as we need to for the right total price but would like to keep it to Midwest or closer.

Might one inquire as to your list of criteria?
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:41 PM   #50
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Dang! They got such great reviews! Good to know though! I'm so thankful for this forum! I'm learning so much so fast!

I bought my bus from them... they have a huge mix of busses.. some are definitely way overpriced, others not.. plus their work prices were less than others by a long shot.. I knew I wanted to have a bus painted, service performed etc.. so prisewise i ended up pretty good because their prices were easily half of other dealers for work...

if you just want a bus with no extra work, their prices can be on the high side... though some work they do to all their busses before they send them out the door...

I personally didnt want to deal with auction sirtes as i have no skills in how or when or what to bid and didnt have the time to do so...

I wanted to drive a bus, buy a bus, have any body work I needed completed.. and drive it home..

so a lot depends on your bidget and your skill level and what parts of the conversion you want to put effort on as to where you go looking for a bus..

a lot of BGA business are schools buying busses to run.. (secondary schools), churches, businesses, etc so their main customer is someone who wants a bus "Ready to drive".. this model doesnt necessarily fit the skoolie mentality as many on here buy a bus and dismantle it completely

for me it was perfect.. all the work I dont have the skills or tools to was done for me..

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