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Old 05-24-2016, 09:41 AM   #61
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Yeah, he was very helpful with me. Between the time we negotiated on the bus and actually picking it up the turbo went out on it. They replaced it and knocked $1000 off the bus.
I'm actually emailing with them right now about my needs and he sent me a big ol list of what they will have coming this summer so far! Awesome!

I noticed they have mostly hyd brakes vs air brakes? Is one or the other "better"!?
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Old 05-24-2016, 09:45 AM   #62
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Rear engine as well.

Need it to be as tall as possible but 6'3 is the shortest we will go.
Look for an 2000 or later Amtran/International 3000RE, or a Thomas Saf-T-Liner HDX. Both have 78" of headroom inside. Air ride is nice, air ride for the driver is even better; my 3000RE has a solid pedestal, so it was a pain in the ass driving it home. Best places to look around would be GovDeals and Public Surplus. And, if you know any when the local ISD starts rotating out their buses, talk to them as well. They might be able to hook you up.
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Old 05-24-2016, 09:47 AM   #63
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I'm actually emailing with them right now about my needs and he sent me a big ol list of what they will have coming this summer so far! Awesome!

I noticed they have mostly hyd brakes vs air brakes? Is one or the other "better"!?
I like air over hydraulic. Better stopping power, larger brake rotors, and one less pump to fail.
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Old 05-24-2016, 09:52 AM   #64
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be careful of air-Seats if you have short legs... your feet will bounce off the pedals... if you are long-legged you have a better shot..

id say for anyone travelling long distance air-ride suspension is a must..

driving my bus 1100 miles home was really nice with that air ride suspension..

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Old 05-24-2016, 10:36 AM   #65
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I bought my bus from them... they have a huge mix of busses.. some are definitely way overpriced, others not.. plus their work prices were less than others by a long shot.. I knew I wanted to have a bus painted, service performed etc.. so prisewise i ended up pretty good because their prices were easily half of other dealers for work...

if you just want a bus with no extra work, their prices can be on the high side... though some work they do to all their busses before they send them out the door...

I personally didnt want to deal with auction sirtes as i have no skills in how or when or what to bid and didnt have the time to do so...

I wanted to drive a bus, buy a bus, have any body work I needed completed.. and drive it home..

so a lot depends on your bidget and your skill level and what parts of the conversion you want to put effort on as to where you go looking for a bus..

a lot of BGA business are schools buying busses to run.. (secondary schools), churches, businesses, etc so their main customer is someone who wants a bus "Ready to drive".. this model doesnt necessarily fit the skoolie mentality as many on here buy a bus and dismantle it completely

for me it was perfect.. all the work I dont have the skills or tools to was done for me..

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I also bought my bus from BGA and am completely happy with the experience. They can remove the seats for you, have a great layaway program, and can even re-title the bus to an RV before you take ownership of it.

EastCoastCB does not care for them, and that is his opinion. But I have heard nothing but great things about them and my own good dealings with them. Plus, if they were not a good company I'd doubt they would still be in business. Just my two cents.
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Old 05-24-2016, 11:01 AM   #66
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DO NOT pay extra if the bus has a coach A/C system.

Not only are they a maintenance nightmare but they cost a LOT of $$$$ to keep them blowing cold. And the worst thing about most of those systems is the cold air does not blow on the driver.

It would be less expensive to mount RV style roof top or basement A/C systems that can run off of a genset or an invertor while on the road.

When purchasing a bus from a dealer do not be afraid to make a ridiculous offer on a bus. Most of the time dealers have a lot more used inventory than what they would really like. Selling a bus for $1K over cost is better than sitting on it for another six months.

And most importantly, do not fall in love with a particular bus. If that one should sell there will be others that will come down the road later just as nice or nicer for the same or lower price.
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Old 05-24-2016, 11:18 AM   #67
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DO NOT pay extra if the bus has a coach A/C system.

Not only are they a maintenance nightmare but they cost a LOT of $$$$ to keep them blowing cold. And the worst thing about most of those systems is the cold air does not blow on the driver.

It would be less expensive to mount RV style roof top or basement A/C systems that can run off of a genset or an invertor while on the road.

When purchasing a bus from a dealer do not be afraid to make a ridiculous offer on a bus. Most of the time dealers have a lot more used inventory than what they would really like. Selling a bus for $1K over cost is better than sitting on it for another six months.

And most importantly, do not fall in love with a particular bus. If that one should sell there will be others that will come down the road later just as nice or nicer for the same or lower price.
I agree on the A/C.. UNLESS you are going to be driving youre bus most of the time.. (like me).. but if you are going to be using it for overnight stays, a home, etc then coach type bus A/C is useless.. if its toy hauler and you are always running it on the road then A/C is great.. and you can EASILY duct it to blow on the driver...

However that said.. even ifyou want coach style A/C.. putting a new one in will get yuou the best results.. which is what im doing to mine... older units ARE a pain to keep working as many schools neglect them severely..

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Old 05-24-2016, 12:18 PM   #68
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DO NOT pay extra if the bus has a coach A/C system.

Not only are they a maintenance nightmare but they cost a LOT of $$$$ to keep them blowing cold. And the worst thing about most of those systems is the cold air does not blow on the driver.

It would be less expensive to mount RV style roof top or basement A/C systems that can run off of a genset or an invertor while on the road.

When purchasing a bus from a dealer do not be afraid to make a ridiculous offer on a bus. Most of the time dealers have a lot more used inventory than what they would really like. Selling a bus for $1K over cost is better than sitting on it for another six months.

And most importantly, do not fall in love with a particular bus. If that one should sell there will be others that will come down the road later just as nice or nicer for the same or lower price.
Thank you for the insight! I'll skip the AC and put in something aftermarket then! I'm definitely not in love with any one type yet. Honestly if engine and height requirements are met, the rest I feel could be adjusted. We are both very tall so air ride seats should be just fine, we planned on getting them anyway for captain as well as co-captain...the kids can suffer in their car seats lol.
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:37 PM   #69
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DO NOT pay extra if the bus has a coach A/C system.

Not only are they a maintenance nightmare but they cost a LOT of $$$$ to keep them blowing cold. And the worst thing about most of those systems is the cold air does not blow on the driver.

It would be less expensive to mount RV style roof top or basement A/C systems that can run off of a genset or an invertor while on the road.

When purchasing a bus from a dealer do not be afraid to make a ridiculous offer on a bus. Most of the time dealers have a lot more used inventory than what they would really like. Selling a bus for $1K over cost is better than sitting on it for another six months.

And most importantly, do not fall in love with a particular bus. If that one should sell there will be others that will come down the road later just as nice or nicer for the same or lower price.
Was waiting for you to chime in on it!
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:40 PM   #70
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I also bought my bus from BGA and am completely happy with the experience. They can remove the seats for you, have a great layaway program, and can even re-title the bus to an RV before you take ownership of it.

EastCoastCB does not care for them, and that is his opinion. But I have heard nothing but great things about them and my own good dealings with them. Plus, if they were not a good company I'd doubt they would still be in business. Just my two cents.
They sent you down the road on dangerous tires at 2-3x the price of the same bus from somewhere else. That's why I try to tell folks to skip putting the money in ANY dealers hands and put that money into a nice bus they got direct.
Not everyone can/will do this but they oughta try, IMO
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