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Old 06-01-2019, 12:16 PM   #1
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Anyone know how much one 'row' of bus weighs?

Excluding seats (or including them if that's the only data you've got), does anyone have any idea how much - generally speaking - one row of bus weighs? What's the difference in curb weight between a 6 vs 7 window (or 7 vs 8, or...) bus of similar manufacture?
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Old 06-01-2019, 01:42 PM   #2
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I’m not sure but my 13window flat nose was weighed at #17200 last week without any windows or inner skin and a 7 window conventional I used to have weighed right around #11000 empty but with windows so that would be #1300 per window on the flat nose and #1500 per window on the conventional
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^^^ I don't think that's a fair comparison, since the engine and trans and radiator, etc, are in the front or rear, and you've got axles and suspension under both ends, but the middle is just a van body.
I'm guessing that the midsection is under 600 lbs of sheet metal, glass and chassis per 2 foot section. Certainly not much more.
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Well, we know what goes in to a "row" of Skoolie by material - let's call it 2x8 feet.


2 feet x 2 frame rails - maybe 25 lbs each? - 50 lbs.
2x8 plywood - 10lbs.
Figure 15 lbs of steel for the floor support?


That's about 75 lbs.


I'm not great at estimating weights , but 1 row of seats is the sheet metal, insulation, and 1 floor support/roof rib / ceiling rib / wall post. I can't really see each piece being much over 75 lbs again - so 75x4 nets 300 LBS per row. Figure I'm terrible at estimating, and bump it up to 400 pounds instead.
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What's the difference in curb weight between a 6 vs 7 window (or 7 vs 8, or...) bus of similar manufacture?
I don't think there's a definitive answer to your question. When I was searching, I was looking at 5-8 window full-size conventionals......my 6 window has a GVWR of 21500, but I saw plenty of 5 and 6 windows between 17500 and 27000, and even remember some 8 windows below the 'magical' 26001 number. Plus, some buses have rubber floors only....no plywood.

So I don't think you can comfortably say "X windows means this much weight".
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Old 06-01-2019, 09:49 PM   #6
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I appreciate the input folks.

Agreed. Probably not a definitive answer. Then again it was a question asked with not much of a definitive goal, excepting curiosity. It's not like it's going to be a deciding factor for me, I suppose. Just trying to weigh engine choices in a chassis that might be shorter than I originally envisioned.

Anticipated GVWR is ~ 25K, but that's weight bearing capacity, not curb weight.
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A quick Google search discovered this document
. Not definitive, just general.


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Old 06-02-2019, 09:21 AM   #8
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Thanks for the link, Native!


Unfortunately, that's still talking GVWR, which is the weight the vehicle can bear rather that the weight it is. Appreciate the effort regardless.
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My 8 window dognose international came in at just under 15k lbs with minimal conversion
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My 8 window dognose international came in at just under 15k lbs with minimal conversion

Is it asking too much to request you buy a 7-window bus of the same make/model/year/powertrain/fuel capacity, perform the exact same conversion, and then subtract the weight difference.


You get another bus, and I get the answer to my question. It's win-win!!


The longer this thread goes the more I realize I asked a stupid question ;)
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