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Old 11-21-2009, 11:09 PM   #1
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Anyone thought of the Vision?

I have a very good friend, and she is chomping at the bit to convert a 2004 BB Vision into a RV. The bus she wants used to be the one she drove, and she's patiently awaiting them to retire it...

Has anyone else here considered one for a future conversion? Namely the 2004-2008 model?

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Old 11-22-2009, 07:29 PM   #2
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Re: Anyone thought of the Vision?

If she can afford what she will probably pay for such a newer model, I would say sure. Go for it. Me personally, I'm 6'1" and most Bluebirds do not have a raised roof, so I wouldn't consider it if you or her are over 6 feet.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:52 PM   #3
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Re: Anyone thought of the Vision?

She is 5'6 and simply loves it...lol


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Old 11-23-2009, 12:35 AM   #4
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Re: Anyone thought of the Vision?

I'm a huge fan of modern vehicles and their electronics. That said, I know nothing of modern electronic diesels other than the theory behind their operation. This alone might make me to be weary of a bus with an electronic engine and transmission. That said, Vision certainly was an appropriate name for that model.
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:35 PM   #5
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Re: Anyone thought of the Vision?

I know that those buses did have their issues, especially electrically...She just loves the looks of it, and she actually drove it pretty much since it was new...So I think that's a part of it.
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Re: Anyone thought of the Vision?

Theres a school bus forum that talked about them. With all of the OEMs buying up the bus builders, it left bluebird with their you know what in their hands. So they came up with the vision which to me is a pretty decent looking bus with good visibility. It is a standard BB body with an 8.1 gas or or a Cummins. It kept bluebird in the game when Intl/Ward/IC and Freightliner/Thomas were poise to control the school bus market. Ford had some sort of agreement with one of the builders, I believe IH, which is why you have not seen any modern Ford chassis available. The municipal market is funny where the manufacturers dictate the specs in order to get their particular products bought. It is not a normal buy what you like environment.
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Re: Anyone thought of the Vision?

ford sold off it's big truck buisiness to sterling/freightliner/daimler benz, in 98 or 99, no more trucks larger than a f550, and now the sterling band has been put away so its freightliner/daimler benz. IH actually assembles the ford 450/550 and was working on a deal to do the same for gm. IIRC IH is in bed with amtran and freightliner owns thomas, someone wa assembleing complete chassis for bb and also several large pusher coaches, monarch comes to mind which would be forest river/warren buffet.
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