Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-03-2019, 07:57 AM   #1
Bus Nut
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 523
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Bare minimum gear for riveting?

I need to rivet some patches on my bus. I was planning to use my crappy Harbor Freight hand-riveter but I realized I'm not going to have the arm strength for doing that. What's a good rivet gun/air compressor combo that will do the job (I might have to put in a few hundred 1/4" rivets all told) without being super-expensive? I'm willing to consider Harbor Freight's own offerings although their stuff is certainly questionable.

What's a good source for rivets?
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2019, 08:51 AM   #2
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 17,992
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
I've got a $70 Harbor freight pneumatic riveter that's worked pretty decently. Its a big improvement over hand riveting.
__________________
.
Roll Your Own Build Thread
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2019, 09:02 AM   #3
Bus Nut
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 523
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB View Post
I've got a $70 Harbor freight pneumatic riveter that's worked pretty decently. Its a big improvement over hand riveting.
This one? https://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-...ter-62685.html I was wondering what the difference is between that and the "professional" one (which is like twice as much).

Did you also get an HF compressor? I saw an AvE video recently where he talks about how the manufacturers basically outright lie about the capacity of compressors so I'm extra-uncertain about which to get.
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2019, 09:06 AM   #4
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 17,992
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis View Post
This one? https://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-...ter-62685.html I was wondering what the difference is between that and the "professional" one (which is like twice as much).

Did you also get an HF compressor? I saw an AvE video recently where he talks about how the manufacturers basically outright lie about the capacity of compressors so I'm extra-uncertain about which to get.
I borrow a friends' compressor. Its a cheapo but its powerful enough and has a 60 gal tank.

When I got my riveter they had one for like $40 that did rivets up to 3/16 and one for $70 that did up to 1/4. The one you linked looks like the one I've got but painted black instead of teal blue.
__________________
.
Roll Your Own Build Thread
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2019, 09:08 AM   #5
Bus Crazy
 
brokedown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Posts: 2,294
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
The one you linked is the one I use also. I tapped into my air brake system rather than get a separate compressor, which is good for most low and medium flow tools (riveter, drill, metal shears, air chisel, etc). I've done hundreds of rivets on my bus.
__________________
Keep up with us and our build!
Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and Twitter
brokedown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2019, 09:16 AM   #6
Bus Crazy
 
brokedown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Posts: 2,294
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
Retractable hose reel mounted behind the rear wheel37344655.jpg
__________________
Keep up with us and our build!
Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and Twitter
brokedown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2019, 11:28 AM   #7
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Salt Lake City Utah
Posts: 1,538
Year: 2000
Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: ISC 8.3
Do you want to do solid bucked rivets or blind rivets?


For solid rivets I've been quite happy with a Chicago Pneumatic 4X rivet gun. It hammers the head of the rivet while an assistant holds a bucking bar on the other side. (I picked a 3 pound bar)


For blind aka Pop rivets I've used a HF pneumatic unit similar/same as the one mentioned by ECCB. I finally broke the jaw inside the riveter -- it's a two-piece cast part and fractured. I've welded that little piece back together a couple of times now.. Apart from this the HF tool has worked well for me.


Air demand for the HF tool isn't too bad -- more than what an air nailer requires, I guess, but you could probably get along even with a pancake compressor. The CP gun for solid rivets is a regular (large) air chisel and takes more air.


I've bought both solid and blind rivets from Hanson Rivet and from Jay-Cee Sales aka rivetsonline.com or rivetsinstock.com.
family wagon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2019, 11:56 AM   #8
Bus Crazy
 
Sleddgracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 1,597
Chassis: still looking for my bus
"Air demand for the HF tool isn't too bad -- more than what an air nailer requires, I guess, but you could probably get along even with a pancake compressor. The CP gun for solid rivets is a regular (large) air chisel and takes more air."


an air tool should have the cubic feet per minute ( cfm ) at 90 lbs +/- listed on it's instructions - when buying a compressor, if it doesn't list cfm @ what ever lbs, and instead says it's a 3 horse power, or 5 gal tank, it's not likely to do the job - get a compressor that's rated to do the job of allowing the air tool in question to do it's job - if a tool requires 20 cfm @ 90 lbs, then buy, rent, or borrow a compressor that is capable of handling at least that load
Sleddgracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2019, 11:03 AM   #9
Bus Nut
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 523
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
So I bought a 1/4 pneumatic riveter at HF: https://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-...ter-62685.html

According to this it needs 4.5 CFM at 90 PSI, so I'm trying to figure out what compressor to get to go with it. If I get something that's not rated quite that high, what are the consequences? Will the riveter not work at all or will I just have to wait longer after each rivet for the tank to re-pressurize?

I'm trying to spend the bare minimum on a compressor since I'm not planning on doing an enormous amount of riveting (I'll need to do maybe 250 rivets in total).

I found a good Dewalt one on craigslist that is something like 5.1 SCFM, but the seller says the pressure gauge is set at 120 PSI and can't be changed - I'm not sure how bad that is, but seems like a bad idea (this particular model sells new for $380 or so and it's selling for $125).
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2019, 11:11 AM   #10
Bus Crazy
 
brokedown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Posts: 2,294
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
I feel like the obvious answer is what I outlined above. Your bus already has a compressor, and you don't sound like you're planning to use tools that need more juice than it can deliver. I for sure wouldn't spend the extra money on another compressor and then have to figure out how to power it, where to store it, etc.
__________________
Keep up with us and our build!
Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and Twitter
brokedown is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.