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03-08-2018, 04:06 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Beautiful Wood Burning Stoves & Questions
This is the model I am looking at
Liberty · La Castellamonte
Heres the whole line
Wood Burning Stoves · La Castellamonte
First of all, just look how pretty they are!!
My question is BTU's
How many btus are you using?
The #2 model has its output in KW. Converted it comes out to 13,650 - 20,475. We plan on being in a fair amount of cold climates.
I'm planning on having r-10 on all 4 sides
35' length, 8' ceilings
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03-08-2018, 04:10 PM
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Almost There
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BTU Calculator
I used this to calculate the BTUs needed for my bus.
When in doubt, go a little bigger.
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03-08-2018, 04:13 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Also wood consumption
This thing says it uses 2.2kg per hour
This sure seems like a lot especially given the size
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03-09-2018, 03:15 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: League City, Texas
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You are talking insulation sure, but what about windows, doors etc... How well is is sealed up from drafts, where are you getting make up / combustion air from etc...?
Also how much of the rig are you trying to heat up and what can remain cool / cold? For example, that BTU calculator site for a 25ft interior length, 8ft wide x 8ft tall space raising the temp by 75 deg F says you will need 21840 BTU. You can lower that considerably by heating less of the space. Put the wood stove in the bedroom / bathroom area where you are more likely to be, well naked... In the kitchen / living room space you are more likely to be dressed... (who showers clothed right?)...
School bus windows are a huge source of thermal leakage. Get rid of them, or seal them off with some sort of internal storm window, or Reflectix or something to reduce heat loss...
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03-09-2018, 03:45 PM
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Bus Geek
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That unit looks like one of those 1' tall wood stoves, but the small one is actually 37" tall. I wonder if that height includes the chimney, which would make the stove a small one. Weighs almost 300lbs. What do they cost?
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03-09-2018, 05:51 PM
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Almost There
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
That unit looks like one of those 1' tall wood stoves, but the small one is actually 37" tall. I wonder if that height includes the chimney, which would make the stove a small one. Weighs almost 300lbs. What do they cost?
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I was getting one until I found out how much they cost.
7500euros to 11000 euros depending on model. That range was for the small ones.
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03-09-2018, 06:10 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rberriz
I was getting one until I found out how much they cost.
7500euros to 11000 euros depending on model. That range was for the small ones.
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Ya, $1000 for the little one was a deal breaker for me also.
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03-09-2018, 06:15 PM
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Almost There
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Ya, $1000 for the little one was a deal breaker for me also.
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Not one thousand, 7500 euros, or nearly 10,000.00 usd
Crazy
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03-09-2018, 06:34 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rberriz
Not one thousand, 7500 euros, or nearly 10,000.00 usd
Crazy
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Can't argue with you because I can't find the price list I was looking at. But I thought I saw the little one at $1038.
Where you located that you're quoting Euro's. Fill out your profile.
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03-09-2018, 08:42 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Raleigh, NC
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This is what I am considering.. I definitely want a wood burning stove, this one will do wood or coal. Plus it has the optional oven you can buy to mount on top of it.. That might be convenient down the road..
https://www.tinywoodstove.com/produc...the-dwarf-5kw/
James
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03-09-2018, 09:19 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamieJackson
This is what I am considering.. I definitely want a wood burning stove, this one will do wood or coal. Plus it has the optional oven you can buy to mount on top of it.. That might be convenient down the road..
https://www.tinywoodstove.com/produc...the-dwarf-5kw/
James
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Bear in mind that 5kW is not much heat in our situation. If you plan any cold-weather camping I'd want another source of heat as well as that tiny stove.
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03-09-2018, 09:48 PM
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Almost There
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Can't argue with you because I can't find the price list I was looking at. But I thought I saw the little one at $1038.
Where you located that you're quoting Euro's. Fill out your profile.
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They don’t sell that stove in the USA
It is a very small luxury builder out of Italy
If you saw one for that price PLEASE tell me where you found it.
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03-10-2018, 12:04 AM
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This is the one I bought: https://cubicminiwoodstoves.com/ . It is reasonably priced, and very efficient. The two units they sell range from 6000 to 14000 BTUs and 8000 to 18000 BTUs. The stoves are a little more than one cubic foot so they don't take up much room.
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03-10-2018, 10:21 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
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I also purchased a Cubicmini Grizzly. Excellent stove at a great price. I am very impressed with the design and quality of the unit. Easy to light and burns great. With a good fire in it the top of the stove gets over 600 deg F and the sides get to about 400 F. Its not in the bus yet but I think it will be sufficient.
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03-10-2018, 11:19 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Seattle
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I have a Jøtul f-100 rated at 35,000 BTU. It will go for about six hours on a full load and takes 14 inch logs. I was burning around two 5 gallon bucket‘s of wood per day. This was before curtains and a blanket across the front area. 28’ back wall to back door with foam board insulation between the ribs and the stock metal ceiling panels. This was my only source of heat living full time in the bus two years ago.
As mentioned, there are several variables. Not just within your bus. Different types of wood and moisture content will give drastically different amounts of heat. I would also say the manufactures rating indicates maximum heat output.
The drawback I see of really small woodstoves is that they won’t go for very long on a load and the length of logs.
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03-10-2018, 11:33 AM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elma
I have a Jøtul f-100 rated at 35,000 BTU. It will go for about six hours on a full load and takes 14 inch logs. I was burning around two 5 gallon bucket‘s of wood per day. This was before curtains and a blanket across the front area. 28’ back wall to back door with foam board insulation between the ribs and the stock metal ceiling panels. This was my only source of heat living full time in the bus two years ago.
As mentioned, there are several variables. Not just within your bus. Different types of wood and moisture content will give drastically different amounts of heat. I would also say the manufactures rating indicates maximum heat output.
The drawback I see of really small woodstoves is that they won’t go for very long on a load and the length of logs.
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That's my concern. If you're in freezing weather when you go to sleep,the fire will be out and the bus freezing when you awake.
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03-10-2018, 03:50 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2015
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I have experienced that many times and learned a great little trick! Chug a tall glass of water before you go to bed!
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03-10-2018, 05:08 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elma
I have experienced that many times and learned a great little trick! Chug a tall glass of water before you go to bed! ��
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And restock the fire when you get up to pee in the middle of the night?
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03-10-2018, 07:27 PM
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Bus Geek
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In my case I could restock it three or four times.
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03-10-2018, 07:43 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
In my case I could restock it three or four times.
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Had a prostate exam lately?
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