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06-21-2016, 02:00 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Windmill Gap, WV
Posts: 15
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Ford
Chassis: E350
Engine: 6.9 Diesel
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Bed Liner for Bathroom?
Has anyone used a spray in bed liner product INSIDE of your bus? I was thinking about framing out a shower stall, then covering with the bed liner. It's water proof, and it holds up in the back of pickup beds. Any thoughts or ideas?
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06-21-2016, 03:49 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Salt Lake City Utah
Posts: 1,635
Year: 2000
Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: ISC 8.3
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A professionally-applied product vs the DIY kits are whole different ballgames. I haven't personally been super-impressed by the DIY stuff. In any case you'd want an application method that leaves a fairly smooth surface -- that Herculiner stuff when applied by roller is rough enough to give a real mean abrasion. That wouldn't go well in a shower.
You could also consider a liquid polyurethane like Vulkem 350. Warning: it isn't cheap. I've used it on a few outdoor wood-frame decks and been quite impressed with its waterproofing performance. It's pretty thin, though, so I'm not sure how well a vertical application would work out (I've only applied it just a few inches up the base of a wall). Might require lots of light coats.
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06-21-2016, 05:25 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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I used a product made to coat shower stalls under tile grout, then painted it.
Second year and looks like new.
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06-21-2016, 05:55 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Windmill Gap, WV
Posts: 15
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Ford
Chassis: E350
Engine: 6.9 Diesel
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What kind of product is that? Like a plastic/rubber shower liner?
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06-23-2016, 05:44 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
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Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyBigBlind
What kind of product is that? Like a plastic/rubber shower liner?
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This is what I used.
Shop MAPEI Green Indoor/Outdoor Barrier at Lowes.com
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06-23-2016, 07:02 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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can I spray rattle can bedliner on the plywood floor of my bus and have decent durability as a floor covering? where my wheelchair lift previously was the rubber is trashed from hydraulic fluid I assume.. the wood is in good shape so I figured id paint it with an oil base primer to seal it from any remaining fluid.. then need to cover it with something.. I reallty dont want residential floor products... so I wondered how well rattle-can bedliner holds up if I paint several thin coast of it on...
-Christopher
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06-23-2016, 07:40 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
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Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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Christopher
While I'm certainly no expert on paint, I think that paint over oil isn't going to work. The "oil" in oil based paint isn't anything like petroleum lubricating oil. A quick search came up with boat guys wanting to paint over oil soaked wood and, while there were many opinions, most said it wouldn't really work.
Dick
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06-23-2016, 09:25 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somewhereinusa
Christopher
While I'm certainly no expert on paint, I think that paint over oil isn't going to work. The "oil" in oil based paint isn't anything like petroleum lubricating oil. A quick search came up with boat guys wanting to paint over oil soaked wood and, while there were many opinions, most said it wouldn't really work.
Dick
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what are my options? cutting out the wood is not an option.. I dont think I have the skill level to cut that piece out and replace it effectively without causing lots of damage... its not horribly soaked.. just around the hole where the original wires and lines went through the floor to the pump presumably.. ive been trying to find small quantities of the bus flooring used but seems it comes in big rolls designed to re-floor a whole bus.. arguably it would probably be "correct" for me to gut and re-floor the whole bus.. but not gonna happen as I need to use it much quicker and am not doing a "cadillac" conversion.. just minimal and drive the wheels off it... if i ever got a second bus to run around in I might think about gutting this one and doing a complete interior rebuild.. but not for at least a year as I have need for it..
I know there are some "sticks to anything" products out there i might just go at it with one of those and see what sticks... literally
-Christopher
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06-23-2016, 10:38 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Salt Lake City Utah
Posts: 1,635
Year: 2000
Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: ISC 8.3
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It really isn't difficult to set the plunge depth of a circular saw so that it barely cuts through the plywood but not into the sheet steel below. For that matter, it could be set a bit short and you finish it off with a utility knife. Similarly it's relatively easy to use a reciprocating saw ("saws-all") with a hook-end wood blade or an oscillating multi-tool to plunge in and cut through the wood without harming the steel below. If all that doesn't work... there's the hammer and chisel method. It'd take some time to work around the perimeter making a clean cut and chipping up the wood, but the tools and method would be simple, cheap, and easy to control. If nothing else you could take off just the first ply or two and fit a layer of hardboard ("masonite") or maybe even Fix-All paste to fill the void and provide a good surface for new flooring to be bonded. I'm with somewhereinusa: I don't recall seeing any kind of coating or adhesive that didn't recommend having the surface clear of dust and grease/oil.
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06-23-2016, 10:45 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Kansas
Posts: 492
Year: 2000
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That rattle can bedliner is absolute garbage. If you're into the idea then get a can of the best roll on you can afford, it will be 100x better and more durable. I rolled the bottom of a stand up jet-ski with some good quality bedliner and two seasons later its still almost perfect. Here again prep work is key.
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06-23-2016, 06:28 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: North carolina
Posts: 651
Year: 1986
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Chassis: Ford
Engine: Detroit 8.2
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Use an oscillating multi tool to cut out the oil soaked area.
The tool is 20-30 at harbor freight if you have one around and they come with some blades/bits.
The replacements blades and bits cost more than the tool in the long run and my harbor freight tool vibrator doesn't get used a lot but it is very usefull for what it was designed to do and is there when need to trim/sand corners that I cut a touch to long and can't get the board out with out messing it up?
Will work for you.
I Agree with even the best of the best products not sticking to anything with oil on it.
The only wood construction I do is at home but I have had to tear up concrete in brand new construction where my threading machine sit.
It didn't look that bad when I left but the epoxy flooring didn't stick and my company had to pay to fix it. Because of the oil on/in the concrete.
Don't know the names of companies but they do make a commercial rubber flooring in 2'x2' squares or variable sizes that don't really stand for 10-yrs but do good (left over brand new ) in my house as chair pads at the computer desk and in my boys rooms at there study desk.
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