Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 11-23-2015, 10:41 PM   #1
Almost There
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 97
blue bird shuttle quality

so im looking at a few blue bird shuttle bus. are these made with the same quality and toughness as the school buses or should i just skip these?
carneiro1292 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 06:28 AM   #2
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 12,182
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Ward/AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 78
Pretty much...
But they aren't built to the SAME specs as school buses. They have less ribs and rivets.
But PLENTY tough enough to build a house/rv out of.
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 04:14 PM   #3
Almost There
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 97
so these are going for waaaayyy more than reg school buses, im assumming they prob arent worth the xtra few thousands? also the tires seem pretty small...is tht better or worse then the larger tires on reg school buses?
carneiro1292 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 04:28 PM   #4
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 12,182
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Ward/AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 78
The ones ive seen are BEAT and usually are dirt cheap. I think these things live a hard life usually.
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 05:01 PM   #5
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
They go by the name TC1000

They are a smaller version of the TC2000 full size bus.

The TC100 still has just as many ribs as a full size, they simply cut every second rib to install the bigger windows. Same thing gets done with the full size when installing larger, non school bus windows.

Main difference is the bus uses fiberglass front and rear caps, vs the steel of the full size. Other differences include a lower power rating from the 5.9 Cummins engine they all use. The full size TC2000 is 190hp and this TC1000 is 160hp.
The TC1000 also have no wheel wells inside the bus. This means a perfectly flat floor, with nothing in the way of your conversion.

The tires are commercial 19.5 rubber. They used them so they didn't have wheel wells in the bus. To overcome the smaller diameter, they just use a higher gear ratio in the rear axle. Nothing wrong with the 19.5 tires or suspension.

Best thing I like about them is the short turning circle. The three TC1000 buses we have at the shop have 50 degree's of steering, meaning they will turn in their own length. Very easy to turn around when diving down streets.

So there you have it. Some real feedback from someone who has driven one.
They are good little buses. I would like to own one myself to make into a 4x4 or tracked unit for exploring the wilderness.

Nat
__________________
"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."

Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
nat_ster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 05:31 PM   #6
Almost There
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 97
ive been reading tht people tend to have lots of issues with tc1000, also they r discontinued, is tht a problem
carneiro1292 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 06:33 PM   #7
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by carneiro1292 View Post
I have been reading that people tend to have lots of issues with TC1000, also they are discontinued, is that a problem?
Please share the known problems and the sources.

We run 3 of them as buses picking up children everyday.

We will not be buying more due to them being discontinued.

Nat
__________________
"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."

Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
nat_ster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 07:06 PM   #8
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 266
I probably wouldn't buy any that had been used in public transit simply because they're in stop n go traffic all day which means the drivetrain is usually wore out really bad. Also public transit authorities will use buses until they're shot to pieces with absolutely no life left in them.

A school-bus spec TC1000 seems like the way to go, esp since it's got the steel front/rear caps as opposed to the fiberglass ones found on the transit TC1000
WIbluebird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 07:18 PM   #9
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by WIbluebird View Post

A school-bus spec TC1000 seems like the way to go, esp since it's got the steel front/rear caps as opposed to the fiberglass ones found on the transit TC1000
Do they?

Our 3 school bus spec TC1000's have fiberglass front and rear caps.

Around here, the school buses see just as much stop and go.

I don't think that bus was used for public transit. That's nothing more than a category of bus.

The TC2000 and TC3000 are also called transit style buses.

Nat
__________________
"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."

Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
nat_ster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 07:20 PM   #10
Bus Nut
 
2kool4skool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Spring Valley AZ
Posts: 784
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 2 elderly children, 1 cat
FWIW.
My TC1000 Skoolie has glass caps f and r.
__________________
Don and Mary
2kool4skool is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.