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Old 07-07-2010, 12:42 PM   #1
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Re: Brushing Oil Based Paint

Some of the folks (including a few on this forum) thin Rustoleum down with mineral spirits (50/50 mix) and roll on with a high density foam roller. Use a foam brush for the places that you can't get into with the roller.

Google $50 Paint job and you will find lots of info on the internet. There is even a forum dedicated to that.
http://rolledon.forummotion.com/ They do wet sand a bit too much for my taste (I will NOT be wet sanding a 40 ft schoolbus!!!)
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:34 PM   #2
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Re: Brushing Oil Based Paint


I brush-painted my first bus ("Old # 35") with Ace Rust Stop, which is reported to be the same kind of paint as Rustoleum. Seemed to work fine, but we must always remember that different people have different standards for paint appearance.

As always, preparing the surface so the paint stays on is the most important.
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Old 07-08-2010, 02:42 PM   #3
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Re: Brushing Oil Based Paint

I painted my bus last weekend with Rustoleum. I rolled most of it including the roof and shot the front and rear end. I followed the advice I found on the forum and mixed it 50/50.

I couldn't agree more with Elliot, "we must always remember that different people have different standards for paint appearance". Its going to look as good as the amount of work you put into it. From 15 feet away, I'd say mine looks pretty decent.

For the roof, I rolled it with a high density 1/4 nap 9 inch roller (white). I found a little four inch cabinet/door foam roller at HD that worked well for the sides. The four inch roller is easier to manage on the verticle than the 9 inch roller - something to think about - FYI. Also depending on what color you decide on also helps. Some colors are not as forgiving as others when it comes to revealing blemishes. That goes the same for the level of gloss you choose - Flat, Satin, Semi Gloss and Gloss.

Rustoleum is an oil based paint. Not sure where you are located, but if its blistering hot and humid take that in consideration as well.

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Old 07-08-2010, 07:47 PM   #4
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Re: Brushing Oil Based Paint

it took two and 1/2 gallons of rusoleum smoke grey primer to paint my 40 ft bus i had already primed my window replacement panels so that may take a little more... we went for the cheap way and rolled ...it it ran a little at the windows but i can touch those areas up when i have a little more time/money
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:04 AM   #5
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Intend to do mine with brushed Rustoleum. So far I've done a few metal filing cabinets, odds and end metal items. Looks smooth, shiny but I barely diluted it. I'll dilute more when I do the bus since dang near all guides I've read said that will come out best. *shrug*
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Re: Brushing Oil Based Paint

I brush painted the Class C with latex semi-gloss house paint from ACE hardware (I like ACE paint.... it's made by Pratt & Lambert). You have to get up really close to it before you see the brush marks (close enough to reach out and touch it). But I figured, it's okay to have brush marks on a house and this is my house! Besides, it was a vast improvement over the old paint job... or rather what was left of the old paint.
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That hunter green is really BRIGHT imo. I talked with the paint guys and they added a dab of black paint (no idea what kind) to it so now I've a lovely forest green.

The aluminum silver grey stuff comes out seriously bright. Hold it up to the sun and the reflection blinds you. It has dimmed down some thankfully, painted it about a month ago with no dilution.

Guess how much is up to you. 50/50 seems to be popular but read around and maybe do some test strips until you find the one that doesn't run, goes on smoothest? One of the articles I've read: http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html
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Re: Brushing Oil Based Paint

I think they are doing all that wet sanding to get a very smooth, very shiny paint finish similar to a spray job. I will do a little prep sanding but I will not wet sand the bus between every 2 or 3 coats of paint. It's just a bus! I will clean the bus down ,after prep sanding, with a rag dipped in mineral spirits. Minerals spirits will remove any wax and other junk that would prevent the paint from sticking. Thin the oil based enamel 1/2 & 1/2 with mineral spirits. Do that for the first coat and then see it you want to use less thinner and more paint. Better yet... find something smallish to do a "test" paint on! Just to make sure you like the colours!
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Re: Brushing Oil Based Paint

I can't imagine painting a bus with a brush or roller. I used a cheap airless to paint my tractor a few years ago. Using a hardner helps with laying down a good coat without runs. Be sure to use a good respirator.

Biggest problem with these paints (rust-o-, tractor paint...) is there is little UV protection and they fade, dull pretty bad. A little more money will get you much better automotive paint.
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...Biggest problem with these paints (rust-o-, tractor paint...) is there is little UV protection and they fade, dull pretty bad. A little more money will get you much better automotive paint.
We cannot paint the bus with a sprayrig (which we do have). We are in my daughters back yard. Not only would my daughter complain but so would the neighbours. Can't wait for the wind to lay down... it never does for long (we are in NM). And how long does the paint job need to last before you say it fades? Our Ford 8N tractor was painted (Red & white/cream) with Rustoleum paint (brush). It was a "working" tractor not a show piece. Paint didn't seem to fade in the 20 years we owned it (looked pretty much the same colour red on exposed areas as it did in the "sheltered" areas... except for the red North Carolina clay stains). The old Massey-Harris (predated the Massey-Harris & Ferguson merger) was painted with Rustoleum grey (spray can). It painted like that for 15 years. It too was a working tractor. All our tractor attachments were also painted in either Rustoleum or Ace Rust stop. Nothing was faded or looked dull. I was told when I painted my Apache (airless sprayer with Rustoleum) that it would be dull, fade, flake, etc. I painted it in 2004, sold it in 2006. Put many miles on it in between. It was always outside and never covered. It looked as good the day I sold it as it did the day I painted it. I live in campgrounds. I know what "new" RV's look like after 2 or 3 years. They are dull and faded. And I do not want to have to learn to spray auto paint. When I was in high school, I had a boyfriend that did that. He tried to teach me how to paint when he painted my Volkswagon. Way too much trouble. Besides... IT'S A BUS! Not a Mercedes.
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