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11-19-2015, 10:02 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Originally Posted by RHOMBUS
Hey, Nat, what is a chloroplast backside? My google search just gives me cell biology stuff. I'd really like to do something similar, since I will be making panels for the windows to block what I can. I just didn't think the windshield would be a possibility, mostly due to the size of the panels needed and where to store them when not used.
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Sorry, I used a product brand name that doesn't exist anymore.
The product is basically corrugated plastic cardboard.
Corrugated Plastic Sheets - Glass & Plastic Sheets - Â*The Home Depot
It can be had in thicknesses from 3/16 all the way up to half inch.
The thin stuff will work fine, but the thicker the better.
I will have one sheet against the glass, and one sheet spaced 2 or 3 inches from the other. After filling with pour foam, this will give a nice 2 or 3 inch insulated panel that is made to fit the window.
Other things can be added to increase stiffness of the panels. Like adding 1/2 inch wooden dowels into the foam space before pouring it, ect.
Feel free to ask anymore questions if I missed anything.
Nat
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11-19-2015, 10:33 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Saw a fellow north of town who built a solar water heater for his swimming pool using 1/2" black Coroplast. Several interlinked panels on a low sloped shed roof and the water came out about 120* during most Texas summer days.
Very nifty stuff with lots of uses other than "bandit signs".
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11-19-2015, 01:22 PM
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#23
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ...little north of Toronto Ontario
Posts: 606
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomsass
Chassis: FreightShaker
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 5 speed
Rated Cap: 2 ATV's and friends
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RHOMBUS
Hey, Nat, what is a chloroplast backside? My google search just gives me cell biology stuff. I'd really like to do something similar, since I will be making panels for the windows to block what I can. I just didn't think the windshield would be a possibility, mostly due to the size of the panels needed and where to store them when not used.
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Try spelling it "coroplast" like Tango did when using google, I use it all the time....comes in about 12 different colours.
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11-19-2015, 04:12 PM
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#24
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 308
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Auto correct is not always your friend.
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11-20-2015, 09:02 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Soooo...how about those walls/dividers behind the pilot's seat?
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11-20-2015, 09:03 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 308
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I am going to say yeah probably. It will cut down on the drafts from the bus door and give you a little more privacy.
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11-20-2015, 09:15 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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I am still planning a barrier in La Tortuga
right now we put up a black curtain on a rope tied to metal turtles, that and the blacked out cover for windshield it's fairly private, the noise echoing inside is a pain, still thinking of gluing egg crate foam to roof over drivers head
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11-20-2015, 09:19 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Originally Posted by Scooternj
I've no plans for a wall between the cab and living area. Especially since SWMBO gets motion
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Let me clarify this...I'm not planning a full wall, but a partial partition, similar to what's there to stop the students from flying through the windshield/driver's seat. Probably fill the voids with foam so they're not rattling.
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11-20-2015, 09:20 AM
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#29
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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That's pretty much my thinking on it, Bansil.
Plus the big windshields are hard to insulate, so its easier to have a wall full of insulation just aft!
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11-20-2015, 10:07 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 59
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 77
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I'm planning on separating the (not sure of terms/making them up) cabin from the house with a heavy curtain for winter time use. That way we can have a sort of mud-room to minimize door/cold glass draft.
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11-20-2015, 11:02 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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12-12-2016, 07:50 AM
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#32
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Was searching on "aerogel" and came across this thread. Any reason people aren't just putting inserts in over the windshield itself? Plain foam board or something. Like the solar shields in cars. Just something that sits on whatever dash there is. Keep the pieces in the right size and stash them somewhere when driving.
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12-12-2016, 08:10 AM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I have some extra pergo "gold" underlayment I was going to try and use for that.
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12-12-2016, 08:13 AM
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#34
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
Posts: 751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daddyoften
Along with all you pointed out add,
- lack of view out the front of the bus
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Totally agree. I get a thrill from the massive views from my windshields.
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12-12-2016, 08:45 AM
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#35
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Originally Posted by Versatile
Totally agree. I get a thrill from the massive views from my windshields.
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I plan on relocating the door and planting a passenger seat up front. Both on swivels. Put in a "typical" pole RV table kinda between and behind them. Use the area as a dining table/sitting area. Might as well make the space as functional as possible.
Foam board would be ghetto as hell but VERY easy. I suppose the RV world also has the accordion windshield covers. They must have something insulated too.
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12-12-2016, 09:06 AM
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#36
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Foam board would be ghetto as hell but VERY easy. I suppose the RV world also has the accordion windshield covers. They must have something insulated too.
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You can always do blinds mounted on the overhead with foam board behind them.
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12-12-2016, 09:07 AM
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#37
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Spring Valley AZ
Posts: 1,343
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 2 elderly children, 1 cat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Was searching on "aerogel" and came across this thread. Any reason people aren't just putting inserts in over the windshield itself? Plain foam board or something. Like the solar shields in cars. Just something that sits on whatever dash there is. Keep the pieces in the right size and stash them somewhere when driving.
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On the outside in the summer, inside when cold. I also have the heater outlet in the stepwell and that counters the windshield temp. transfer.
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12-12-2016, 09:52 AM
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#38
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2kool4skool
On the outside in the summer, inside when cold. I also have the heater outlet in the stepwell and that counters the windshield temp. transfer.
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Is that the car stuff? Except for the vertical lines it looks like sheet metal.
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12-12-2016, 10:08 AM
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#39
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Spring Valley AZ
Posts: 1,343
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 2 elderly children, 1 cat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Is that the car stuff? Except for the vertical lines it looks like sheet metal.
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Large WS shade. Suction cups and bungees.
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