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Old 03-06-2017, 07:28 PM   #1
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Building Code Issues... HALP!

Hi Everyone!

We just purchased a bus last month and have since finally gotten it registered, insured and inspected in western New York. Upon moving her to our driveway we had a neighbor complain about her presence and report us to the town.

A worker from the town came to our house and politely told us that a neighbor was complaining, and that we weren't doing anything wrong by having it in our driveway, but that we couldn't work on it without a permit.

I'm not really sure how to handle this due to the fact that it is registered as a personal vehicle, and therefore should be treated the same as if I wanted to work on the interior of my car in my driveway. The building and fire code enforcement guy is coming tomorrow to shove a bunch of building code lingo down my throat, but my question is has anyone else had an issue while trying to complete their conversion?

As of now the only information that I have is that it falls into the category of "trailer" building codes, but there is no mention of needing a permit to modify/renovate a trailer anywhere in the town's legislation. They also informed me that tiny homes are illegal in the state of New York, which I don't see how that is applicable because it will be registered as an RV upon completion.

Any advice or stories are welcome! Thank you!
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:43 PM   #2
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Go find the pertinent regulations at borough hall, and/or the building department.
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:50 PM   #3
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Wow, that sounds really crazy. Do you need a permit to put new seat covers on your car? What in the world? I've seen lots of discussion about city ordinances that prevent commercial vehicles in residential lots, which is obnoxious but at least half-way understandable, but this is the first time I've seen anyone get tagged for needing a permit to work on a bus. I mean, it's not a house. It's not even a structure. It sounds like someone has a few wires crossed. You may have to pull the regulations for what types of construction require permits and point out that you are not, in any sense of the word, working on a building.
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Old 03-06-2017, 08:40 PM   #4
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sounds like someone is trying to intimidate you. It is a VEHICLE! Not subject o building inspections.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:56 PM   #5
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Go find the pertinent regulations at borough hall, and/or the building department.
NO

wait until they show up and be all sweet and listen.

They will either issue a citation or not.

If the visiting officer appears bent on issuing a citation you might explain to him that you will not be rolling over and complying with their direction unless it is clear (via the code book) that you are in violation. And they should get ready for a bunch of paperwork to prove their position.

If they do, make sure they include the pertinent regulation code numbers and ordnance numbers, then go research what code they claim you are violating.

And they can not cite you for what they think you are about to do.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:07 PM   #6
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If he did not leave anything in writing then I would ignore the visit. If he left a stop work notice or something of that nature then I would go to the office and review the regulations.
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Old 03-07-2017, 11:42 PM   #7
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If he did not leave anything in writing then I would ignore the visit. If he left a stop work notice or something of that nature then I would go to the office and review the regulations.
Unless there is some kind of code about RV's being seen from the street, {which there are a couple of community's in Ca} I'd tell them go F*%k themselves, They have no say over your vehical unless it's on the street.
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Old 03-08-2017, 09:41 AM   #8
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FWIW:

I built a new structure on a 30' 5th wheel trailer frame in my driveway. Before I started I emailed Planning & Building asking if I needed a permit for the work. They replied that I did not as they do not permit/inspect RV's. I printed the email out and kept it on hand while building just in case anyone griped.

That may be a "workaround" for you?
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Old 03-08-2017, 09:43 AM   #9
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even if you need a permit, its probably not a bad deal.

building permits issued here, exempt you from paying sales tax at the store. show them the permit, and they know you already paid.

i agree with the others that you should not need one for customizing a vehicle, but if a city worker is on a power trip, it may be easiest to grease the wheel. that way, the next phone call complaining about a bus will be answered with a "its legal" have a nice day.

good luck either way
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what is it currently titled and/or registered as?
if it is still a school bus, bus and/or has commercial plates on it, that might be the issue.
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