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Old 07-13-2018, 10:22 PM   #1
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Bus purchase Question

How does the following bus sound?

Pros and Cons.

It would be setup for full time living and drive all over the country pulling a flat deck with our Jeep on it..

2003 International/Blue Bird School Bus. DT-466 engine, Allision 545 transmission, 11R22.5 tires, 72 passenger, air brakes. Michigan State Police Inspected January 2018. approximately 139,500 miles. $2,995
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:43 PM   #2
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The 545 killed the deal.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:01 PM   #3
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The 545 killed the deal.
Why is that?

Is it weak?

Slow?

Unreliable?
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:51 PM   #4
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The 545 was OK in its' day but is a dinosaur now.


No lockup.
No Overdrive.
Only four gears.


That combo sucks fuel, heats up on anything but level ground and puts undue strain on most engines when trying to run at highway speeds. And the lack of lockup also means no real engine braking which can be scary if you ever get into anything remotely like mountains...or hills...or just about any steep downgrade.


Many people have them and drive them all over but there are FAR better trannies.



The engine on the other hand is one of the better. Being all mechanical is also a big plus. No computer$ = much easier maintenance and servicing.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:56 PM   #5
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Ditto - I'm no expert, but I want some help from compression as I hit a downgrade.
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Old 07-14-2018, 08:18 AM   #6
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So what transmission should I look for?

And what motors?
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Old 07-14-2018, 08:36 AM   #7
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Basically anything that isn't an AT545 is better than the AT545. I am on my second bus with an AT545 and it's fine most of the time. It suffers a bit on the highway and suffers a lot in the mountains.
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Old 07-14-2018, 08:41 AM   #8
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So what transmission should I look for?

And what motors?
Same motor or a DT466E (computer controlled) just with an Allison MD3060 or 2000 series transmission.
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:14 AM   #9
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The 545 was OK in its' day but is a dinosaur now.


No lockup.
No Overdrive.
Only four gears.


That combo sucks fuel, heats up on anything but level ground and puts undue strain on most engines when trying to run at highway speeds. And the lack of lockup also means no real engine braking which can be scary if you ever get into anything remotely like mountains...or hills...or just about any steep downgrade.


Many people have them and drive them all over but there are FAR better trannies.



The engine on the other hand is one of the better. Being all mechanical is also a big plus. No computer$ = much easier maintenance and servicing.
A 2003 isn't gonna be mechanical.
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He indicated a DT 466. So the '04 is in reality a 466-E?
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