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04-22-2017, 08:41 AM
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#41
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,791
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Best I can find on 11R's here is $250 for chinese. That's installed.
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That's a better value than around here having the installation included in that $250. Nonetheless it makes me feel better about the purchase price. It's not too far off.
Sometimes it's hard to know if you're being taken for a fool when buying this sort of thing.
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04-22-2017, 08:44 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jazty
That's a better value than around here having the installation included in that $250. Nonetheless it makes me feel better about the purchase price. It's not too far off.
Sometimes it's hard to know if you're being taken for a fool when buying this sort of thing.
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Plenty of places around here are getting $300 apiece for chinese. Your price isn't too bad.
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04-24-2017, 08:41 PM
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#43
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,791
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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Ok, next up: Which crap tire is the least crap?
I have my pick of Sailun or Triangle. I'm leaning towards the Sailun, since it's the only name I can find in any heavy duty truck tire reviews. The brand didn't rate high, but it wasn't last.
Any opinions?
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04-25-2017, 12:05 PM
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#44
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,791
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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The dirty deed is done! I went with Sailun since that's the Chinese rubber that Kal Tire offers and I liked dealing with them better than the other clueless guys.
$328 CAD per tire after taxes and fees ($241 USD).
I learned today that Kal Tire also has a vast network of used tires, too. They'll happily ship them from other locations for free and they have detailed listings. I'll likely grab a spare from them some time soon.
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04-25-2017, 12:24 PM
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#45
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,791
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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I've never been so excited for tires! The tread on these things is going to get me out of the mud hole, I'm sure of it!
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04-25-2017, 01:02 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I hope those tires get you out of the mud. Most of us get stuck on wet grass.
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Nobody's Business
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04-25-2017, 01:14 PM
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#47
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
Posts: 751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Best I can find on 11R's here is $250 for chinese. That's installed.
Do what ya gotta do, though, yall. Spending a few extra bucks for new, safe tires is cheap insurance.
My big bus' tires are so ragged, its next trip on pavement will be straight to the tire shop. Hell- I may even have them come out with the tires in their mobile truck.
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Would this be Hancook tires?
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1998 Ford B700 Thomas body 65 passenger. 5.9 Cummins 12 valve with MT643 Transmission 123,000 miles.
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04-25-2017, 01:18 PM
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#48
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,791
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
I hope those tires get you out of the mud. Most of us get stuck on wet grass.
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As it stands I can usually trudge along with the wheels sunk 4" into the clay, as proven be the lower part of the driveway. That's with much slippage, though, and I've pulled out the 12000lb winch on occasion. We'll see how these guys do soon! The bus is a shortie, btw.
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04-25-2017, 01:41 PM
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#49
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I spin my tires going through my own driveway. Then again, not everyone has a creek to drive through in their yard.
I was planning for lots of highway driving and bought six steer tires so they'd be very quiet on the road. That choice is why I get stuck so easily on wet grass.
The shorties are nice to drive. This medium size bus is one foot longer than my shorties are. It's definitely got more space than a shortie but doesn't drive as nice.
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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04-25-2017, 02:41 PM
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#50
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Versatile
Would this be Hancook tires?
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Triangle, and Samson, I believe.
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04-25-2017, 03:45 PM
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#51
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,756
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I got the gnarly tread on my DEV bus tires.. and its been a help for sure.. you do hear them on the highway but i actually like that.. makes me feel like im BIG-RIGGIN!
-Christopher
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04-25-2017, 04:44 PM
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#52
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Kansas
Posts: 492
Year: 2000
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: Your mom +1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Versatile
Would this be Hancook tires?
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Hankook is a Korean company not chinee... I've been pleasantly surprised with the quality of Hankooks over the last 15 years or so, for passenger tires anyway.
I'm another for knobby tires on the drives. They may be a little louder, but I've never even spun a tire let alone gotten stuck with my knobby Michelins, and I have a low water crossing and deep gravel/sand to get to my property...
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04-25-2017, 05:13 PM
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#53
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jazty
IMG_20170425_124050
I've never been so excited for tires! The tread on these things is going to get me out of the mud hole, I'm sure of it!
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tire porn!!
I got my sailums at kal tire in New Liskard not to far from you,
gbstewart
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04-25-2017, 05:27 PM
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#54
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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That is a sexy looking load of tires.
OP, did you mount those yourself?
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Nobody's Business
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04-25-2017, 09:14 PM
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#55
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,791
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
That is a sexy looking load of tires.
OP, did you mount those yourself?
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I'll be giving it a go this week! I don't have one of those bead breaking hammers, but I do have a pick axe that just might do the job. Otherwise it looks a lot easier than changing over small car tires. I've done that twice and it's easily worth the $20 that the tire shops charge.
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04-25-2017, 09:15 PM
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#56
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,791
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbstewart
tire porn!!
I got my sailums at kal tire in New Liskard not to far from you,
gbstewart
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What's your opinion of the Sailuns so far?
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04-25-2017, 09:40 PM
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#57
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I've never seen a shop use the bead breaking hammer. If the tire was stuck we used to drive over it with another vehicle. Just the tire, not the rim.
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Nobody's Business
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04-25-2017, 10:29 PM
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#58
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Do you have some proper tire irons?
When you say it looks easy, are you talking about the YouTube videos of guys knocking one out in about 45 seconds? It's not as easy as they make it look.
I've changed many, many truck tires. The best advice I can give you is to use twice as much soap as you think you'll need.
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04-25-2017, 11:32 PM
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#59
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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And you will destroy the bead of the tire using a pickaxe, bead hammer is blunt and rounded
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04-26-2017, 06:03 AM
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#60
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,756
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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maybe he is going to do that method where they explode the tire on the rim...
-Christopher
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