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06-09-2019, 03:15 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Austin, Texas relocating to Maine
Posts: 9
Year: 87
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: Detroit Diesel 8.2L "Fuel Pincher" V8
Rated Cap: 77
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Bus won't start: How to I open this door to the batteries?
Hi! PLEASE ADVISE
Road Sloth is finally title in hand, street legal, and registered but now she won't start! I think it's as simple as dead batteries but I can't open this door to access the batteries. Please see photos:
(I don't known why the 2nd pic loaded sideways)
Thank you!
Stacy
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06-09-2019, 03:18 PM
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#2
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Are the holes on the right latches? Look inside this holes to see if there’s a slot
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06-09-2019, 03:46 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Austin, Texas relocating to Maine
Posts: 9
Year: 87
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: Detroit Diesel 8.2L "Fuel Pincher" V8
Rated Cap: 77
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It's so hard to see in there. Not very open but I'll check rn. Thank you
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06-09-2019, 03:49 PM
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#4
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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May be bolted closed with carriage bolts. Can you see if there are nuts on the back side of the skirt you can access?
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06-09-2019, 04:58 PM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Try a screwdriver in there to unlock them.
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06-09-2019, 05:18 PM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Try a screwdriver in there to unlock them.
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THis^
If you get no satisfaction that way grind off the rivets.
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06-09-2019, 05:26 PM
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#7
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Austin, Texas relocating to Maine
Posts: 9
Year: 87
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: Detroit Diesel 8.2L "Fuel Pincher" V8
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.dgeorge07
May be bolted closed with carriage bolts. Can you see if there are nuts on the back side of the skirt you can access?
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No visible nuts, looks locked down. See pics:
Thanks!!
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06-09-2019, 05:49 PM
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#8
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Austin, Texas relocating to Maine
Posts: 9
Year: 87
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: Detroit Diesel 8.2L "Fuel Pincher" V8
Rated Cap: 77
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There is nothing behind the holes and screwdriver didnt work
Are the batteries somewhere else? Thomas chasis 87 Ford B700 DD 8.2L
Thanks for helping!
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06-09-2019, 05:53 PM
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#9
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Sloth
There is nothing behind the holes and screwdriver didnt work
Are the batteries somewhere else? Thomas chasis 87 Ford B700 DD 8.2L
Thanks for helping!
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Pretty sure that is the right location. There’s got to be a way to open the door. A release handle inside the cabin maybe?
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06-09-2019, 06:11 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Picton,Ont, Can.
Posts: 1,956
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: GMC
Engine: Cat 3116
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Sloth
There is nothing behind the holes and screwdriver didnt work
Are the batteries somewhere else? Thomas chasis 87 Ford B700 DD 8.2L
Thanks for helping!
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Try inserting a 3/8" ratchet extension in the 2 holes and turn ccw.
Good luck
John
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Question everything!
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06-09-2019, 06:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Sloth
There is nothing behind the holes and screwdriver didnt work
Are the batteries somewhere else? Thomas chasis 87 Ford B700 DD 8.2L
Thanks for helping!
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Tap on the bottom of the box, does it sound hollow, or like a thud because the weight of batteries is on it?
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06-09-2019, 06:18 PM
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#12
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Austin, Texas relocating to Maine
Posts: 9
Year: 87
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: Detroit Diesel 8.2L "Fuel Pincher" V8
Rated Cap: 77
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It's open! Yes! Flat head screw driver in the holes and turn it to the right - my first screwdriver was too short!
Thanks so much for helping!!!
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06-09-2019, 07:00 PM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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That'll be $4910 please. $10 for knowing where to put the tool and $4900 for knowing what tool to use. .  
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06-09-2019, 09:06 PM
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#14
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,434
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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If the hole inside is square, the tool is a T handle with a tapered square. Most any thing that fits the hole closely should work.
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06-09-2019, 09:11 PM
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#15
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Sloth
It's open! Yes! Flat head screw driver in the holes and turn it to the right - my first screwdriver was too short!
Thanks so much for helping!!!
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Only two batteries?
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06-09-2019, 11:16 PM
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#16
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
Only two batteries?
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Usually more than two for starting the bus isn’t a thing. I think the house batteries are somewhere else, these must just be for starting. Correct me if I’m wrong.
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06-09-2019, 11:55 PM
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#17
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeNesquik
Usually more than two for starting the bus isn’t a thing. I think the house batteries are somewhere else, these must just be for starting. Correct me if I’m wrong.
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My Genesis with a DT466 came with only one Group 31 start battery.
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06-10-2019, 12:58 AM
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#18
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,094
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
Rated Cap: I prefer broad-brims hats
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Kudos on wrinkling open your battt hatch!
Welcome to the Looney tunes sdulumz!
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06-10-2019, 03:09 AM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
Only two batteries?
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I can run just one.
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06-10-2019, 08:33 AM
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#20
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeNesquik
Usually more than two for starting the bus isn’t a thing. I think the house batteries are somewhere else, these must just be for starting. Correct me if I’m wrong.
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Well, my bus came with three batteries and the tray is clearly designed to hold three of them. Having just bought and installed three replacement batteries, I'm interested to know whether I could have bought just two or one instead.
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