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Old 12-13-2017, 03:04 PM   #1
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Buying a short bus - 2004 Thomas

I've learned a lot from lurking here, now it's time for me to actually make some moves.

I'm going to check out a bus tomorrow that seems to tick all the boxes for me:
2004 Thomas, 5-window w/ dualie
6.0 Turbo diesel
137k miles
Acoustic ceiling
Roof hatch
Front and rear ac

It's at the absolute top of my budget, 10k, but seems to be perfect. The dealer also takes care of removing the school bus lettering, swapping out the overhead light gels from red to amber, and disabling the stop sign per California law.

Is there anything I'm missing here? Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:12 PM   #2
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Man, thats a LOT of dough!
And the 6.0 is not a preferable engine unless you have deep pockets and like working on complicated things in cramped spaces.
just my 2 cents.
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:22 PM   #3
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Sounds mighty high to me too. The low miles are the only real plus I see.
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:53 PM   #4
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There was a 2005 E450 Cutaway with 137k miles & 6.0 for sale up here a while back for less than $5k.

I almost bought it. I was going to make a 5th wheel hauler out of it. Wife was not entirely enthused as we have two unfinished buses here already....

I can check and see if it is still available if you like.
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Man, thats a LOT of dough!
And the 6.0 is not a preferable engine unless you have deep pockets and like working on complicated things in cramped spaces.
just my 2 cents.
Would you care to elaborate? Is the 6.0 really that much more expensive to maintain?
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There was a 2005 E450 Cutaway with 137k miles & 6.0 for sale up here a while back for less than $5k.

I almost bought it. I was going to make a 5th wheel hauler out of it. Wife was not entirely enthused as we have two unfinished buses here already....

I can check and see if it is still available if you like.
That would be great, thanks!

Keeping in mind I'm in Los Angeles... things are expensive down here!
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:58 PM   #7
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That would be great, thanks!

Keeping in mind I'm in Los Angeles... things are expensive down here!
Funny, one of the buses in my yard is a 2005 Thomas 5 window w/ 125k miles & 6.0 diesel. It is headed for Irvine when I get done with it.
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Old 12-13-2017, 04:06 PM   #8
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Sounds mighty high to me too. The low miles are the only real plus I see.
Low miles on 6.0's are common. They're problematic and are often sold well before they're timed out for removal.
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Old 12-13-2017, 04:06 PM   #9
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10 k seems really high for a cutaaway bus.
the 6.0 diesel from ford had a host of issues with head bolt stretch, EGR cooler, oil cooler, etc. esp in 2004 and into mid 2005..

to bulletproof it and make it an extremely reliable engine. requires removing the heads and a couple grand worth of parts.. that one is low miles and may ifits been maintained meticulously you wont have issues with it.. im pretty adventurous when it comes to engines. but the 2004 6.0 diesel ford is not one id jump right into... you can read about 2004 powerstroke 6.0 issues on many a diesel website..

at the very least i wouldnt pay anywhere even close to 10k for a bus in that year with that engine.. even in california..
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Would you care to elaborate? Is the 6.0 really that much more expensive to maintain?
IS it a navistar 6.0 or a powerstroke 6.0.

Do some searching and you'll find some real nightmares folks have had with those engines.
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