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Old 12-22-2009, 09:21 PM   #1
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Carpentry skills

Ok, so I'm getting close to starting the framing of walls and the overall build process. The problem is I don't have any carpentry skills at all as far as framing, cabinets, general carpentry etc... I was wondering if I should maybe get a basic carpentry book or should I just rely on input from members and pictures here for step by step instructions?

I just don't want to have to tear everything out because i constructed it in a way that everything falls apart when I hit the first bump.

Any advice would help. Maybe some recommondations on certain books?

What have other members on here done?

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Old 12-22-2009, 09:34 PM   #2
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To find out and get down the basics, books are good. they can also help with more complex projects if you find the right book. If you have a Library nearby you could check to see what they have, its free. also the web is full of DIY info. and I'm sure other people here especially ones who have completed or are working on their bus can help too.

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Old 12-22-2009, 09:42 PM   #3
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Both Lowes and Home Depot have a nice selection of how-to books. Check out something like Craigs List or Freecycle.org for some of the Time-Life series of DIY books.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:51 PM   #4
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Re: Carpentry skills

Do you have a Video Rental card to someplace local? Look for "The New Yankee Workshop". He does alot of furniture, cabinets and other freestanding stuff. But for the generals, its pretty good visually.

Otherwise the local library is a good place to hit, or even youtube. I just looked up Cabinet Making and got a bunch of hits on youtube.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:54 PM   #5
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All I can say is you should NOT use nails... Screws are your friend and are a much better fastener for skoolies. A good basic overview of what studded walls look like may help you. I can give you the advice of my grandfather "if it doesn't look right it probably isn't". I basically made rectangle frames and dropped studs in after I made the original rectangle it gave me a few extra studs but their only 2x2's. Just my 2 cents...... good luck....
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:38 PM   #6
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Don't forget..... measure once, cut twice er, sorry, measure twice, cut once.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:30 AM   #7
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and when you are measuring for the third time make sure you're being careful about it. studs can be a bit off but cabinets have to bed right or it'll show. also don't forget about the width of the cut the blade makes(kurf).
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:36 PM   #8
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Man, I wish my father was available to help me out. He builds houses for a living. But I think I will learn better if I teach myself and do my own research.

Thanks for the additional replies!
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Old 12-26-2009, 10:09 AM   #9
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I can't build a box but I sure the heck intend to make stud walls!
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Cover everything with carpet--hide your sins.
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:11 PM   #11
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Don't sweat it you'll do fine

Here's the link to my bus conversion, I hit the framing pretty hard in pictures and text. The method I used went pretty fast once I got it figured it out. Definitely use screws on everything if for no other reason than it will make it easier to change your mind and move things around once you get started.

http://www.skoolie.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3981

You didn't mention how tooled up you are, but I would recommend a good quality (Milwakee or DeWalt) cordless tool set (drill/driver, circular saw, reciprocal saw) and a cheap chop saw to get ya started with the usual hand tools. Lot's of good used tools in pawnshops right now! You don't need a lot of tools but you and your work will suffer without good tools.

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Old 12-28-2009, 09:16 PM   #12
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Thanks Den. I have a good cordless drill driver, skilsaw, jigsaw and I will be getting a miter saw soon. Any other tool requirements you would suggest?
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WOW DEN! I JUST READ YOUR ENTIRE CONVERSION. NICELY DONE!!! GOOD REFERENCE TOO!! THANKS!!
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Thanks Den. I have a good cordless drill driver, skilsaw, jigsaw and I will be getting a miter saw soon. Any other tool requirements you would suggest?
You will also want some "corded" tools 1/2" drill, reciprocal saw, circular saw and angle disk grinder. Hand tools such as what we call "bag" tools (tool belt) hammer, "Speed Square", retracting utility knife, chalk line, pencil holder and tape measure.

Sturdy saw horses to work off (good first wood working project ), large framing square for squaring walls. A 8' level to clamp to plywood panels to guide the skill saw for straight cuts (screw plywood together and cut both panels at the same time so they match) if you don't have access to a table saw. The 8' level is also handy as a straight edge when your laying out the interior. You really won't use it as a level since the bus won't be level. DeWalt makes a nice wood screw counter sinker for pre-drillng wood screws that I used a lot during the framing so as to not split the 2"x2" studs.

A table saw is handy but not a necessity, you can buy 2x2's already ripped and rip your plywood/OSB pannels with a circular saw and straight edge on your saw horses.

These tools would get you through demo and framing and most of the exterior depending on how enthusiastic you get with outside mods. It probably wouldn't hurt to get a carpentry book, Home Depot has a big selection and the "Stanley" or "Black And Decker" books look pretty good, if for nothing else than to keep you safe and for the instruction on how the tools are best used.

My advice is to take your time with layout and design, get a nice coat of white sealer on your plywood floor and then use your chalk line, square and 8' level (straight edge) with blue chalk (easy to remove with a damp rag) to snap out your proposed walls. If you have your appliances set them in their place, if not use some cardboard cutouts. Put some yard chairs where you are going to have your seating, put a 5 gallon pail where your going to have your pooper. Mock up the whole thing the best you can BEFORE you start framing. Working out designs on paper is fine but you won't really have a good perspective till you mock it up.

Keep in mind the lines you chalk out will be finished walls, when you do final layout for framing you will need to account for the plywood/OSB and paneling thickness or your finished walls will be in the wrong place and things might not fit like you planned.

Frame in the area's that are location critical fist, such as around the wheel wells and the bathroom stool and shower and work away from those area's. When you lay out for your stool and shower pay attention to the support ribs underneath the plywood floor, you don't want to be carving on them when you start plumbing.

I tried several methods of framing before I settled on the method I used with 2x2's and OSB (1/2" CDX plywood would work as well) and now that I'm farther along, I'm still very happy with it.

I worked a lot this summer and didn't get trimmed out like I wanted and still have exposed framing if you need some detailed pics, but don't wait too long. I'm about caught up with work and getting ready to hit it hard again.

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Old 12-31-2009, 04:59 PM   #15
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WOW! Thanks for the detailed suggestions Den!! Yeah, if you have some time to send me some pics, that would be great!!

If you want, you can email them to me at INTERCEPTOR498@YAHOO.COM.
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DD, Post them in the gallery, please? Can never have enough pictures to look at. And they might come in handy to others, and would be easier to just point to them in the gallery.
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