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Old 04-13-2010, 10:55 AM   #11
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Both are true, the lacquer over enamel because lacquer solvents are too "hot" for the softer enamel, and the acrylic over oil base is because acrylics won't adhere to the oil based painted surface.

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I see...I learn something new every day. I guess I better keep an eye on what I am using. I have used an acrylic enamel for my bumpers and mirror brackets, and urethane primer on the body so far. I will have to check to see what the trim paint I am using for the windows is, but that shouldn't matter too much, I am not painting over them again.
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:41 PM   #12
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I have a question, since this is the current paint thread (I searched and found a few bits and pieces, but I'd like current opinions). What's the best brand to use for a rattle-can job? I don't have access to a paint booth, so when I get a bus I'll have to paint it outside. I have one of those call-the-cops-for-everything neighbors (and she lives on the downwind side of course), so I can't do anything that would result in a large cloud of toxic paint. Even spraycans are pushing it, but if I do a small enough section at a time it should be ok. I thought about doing the rolled-on Rustoleum, but I'd prefer a smooth finish.

I'm thinking either Rustoleum or Dupli-Color. I'll start with gray primer over the OEM paint and any bodywork I have to do, but I want to decide on the final coat first to make sure the primer is compatible. Suggestions? Any success stories that are a few years old?
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:45 PM   #13
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It's been my experience that the spraycan jobs go on so thin, and there are so many variables, that it will never be uniform enough, considering the area you have to cover. It will look spraycanned on. Just roll it on! You don't HAVE to do it the way I posted.
Heck, you don't have to do it more than one coat either, if you are okay with smoothish but not showcar shine, then just apply it as the instructions on the paint can. It will take a few weeks to fully dry, but if you can wait that long to drive it, brush against it, then okay. Only problem I see is things like hinges. not sure what to do bout them.
There is a forum,http://rolledon.forummotion.com/forum.htm, and it's dedicated to stuff like this. I haven't seen any other bus people on there, but that would be a great place to ask more specific questions like this.
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And another downside to rolling...if possible, I'd like to only sand a bus once.
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Okay, sorry to be dense here, but I'm still not sure what can go on top of what. I don't always see terms like "enamel", "laquer", "latex", etc. on the paint cans. So is there a crosswalk I can use here? Is latex always water based, and enamel always oil based? What is laquer? Okay... wait... actually, nevermind all that... it will just confuse me more.

Really I just want to know what primer I should use under the Rustoleum gloss white paint I plan to use as my topcoat.

Here is my plan:
I plan on using Duplicolor self-etching primer (enamel) on my galvanized window skins, then primer the whole bus with white primer (brand? type?), then coat with Rustoleum gloss white, then add Rustoleum hunter green accents/trim. I have an air-powered industrial sprayer from Harbor Freight and a good compressor. I know some here feel that primer is unnecessary, but since I'm painting white anyway, I'm just considering it the first of two coats to ensure good coverage, and cheaper than the top coat paint, and some measure of security regarding adhesion (especially if I don't do such a great job sanding and just in case the "no primer" camp is wrong ).

So back to my main question: What type/brand of cheap, Home-Depot-buyable primer should I use?

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Instead of buying paint at the 'big orange store', do you have access to an auto body supply store? The cost of paint and primer may not be that much different. You have the spray equipment, you may as well use automotive paint.
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Instead of buying paint at the 'big orange store', do you have access to an auto body supply store? The cost of paint and primer may not be that much different. You have the spray equipment, you may as well use automotive paint.
Good point. I suppose I should at least explore that option. I just don't want to make sure the paint I use is as hassle-free as possible. I would have been happy with a roller and brush paint job, but just got the sprayer for ease of application and to more easily get the nooks and crannies.
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Instead of buying paint at the 'big orange store', do you have access to an auto body supply store? The cost of paint and primer may not be that much different. You have the spray equipment, you may as well use automotive paint.
Good point. I suppose I should at least explore that option. I just don't want to make sure the paint I use is as hassle-free as possible. I would have been happy with a roller and brush paint job, but just got the sprayer for ease of application and to more easily get the nooks and crannys.
Just tell them your plans and any competent auto body guy should be able to point you in the right direction. If you use enamel, it is worth it to get the hardener for it. Even Rustoleum works better with hardener added.
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You'll need to use a primer specifically for galvanized metal, otherwise you'll have problems.

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Smitty are you saying the DupliColor brand self-etching primer will not work? I just went to the Duplicolor website and found this product, which is probably what I need to get:

Weld-Through/Cold Galvanized Primer
Dupli-Color® Professional Weld-Through/Cold Galvanized Primer provides maximum corrosion resistance with a durable zinc-rich coating that can be applied directly to dry metal or galvanized surfaces.
  • Durable zinc-rich coating
    Provides maximum corrosion resistance
    Outstanding feather edging
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That should work just fine. It is a self-etching primer made for galvanized and bare metal.
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