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02-10-2018, 05:41 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 570
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466e
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Custom driver seat?
Was wondering what people did as far as the drivers seat. Found an electric rv chair on amazon but was hoping to see some images of what other people have done. Gonna do some googleing as amazon is kinda limited in that regard i think
Please share!
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02-10-2018, 05:57 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Allenstown NH
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC-1000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 39 Students
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I used forklift seats in my short busses.
My TC1000 has an air seat but I have my eye on a nice seat from a cabover Kenworth...
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02-10-2018, 06:53 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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I'm heading to my local PullAPart and find something out of a Cadillac CTS or something for $75. Then I'm going to mount 4 nice late model bucket seats from a car on pedestals in the "living room"
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02-10-2018, 07:21 PM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
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Chassis: TC2000
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Rated Cap: '00
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I scored a few Recaro air seats off classifieds. Might grab 2 more for pax.
Check with truck dismantlers-
How are you going to control those cadillac CTS seats? I'd like to go that route, but getting them to function.
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02-10-2018, 07:22 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Allenstown NH
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC-1000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 39 Students
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
I scored a few Recaro air seats off classifieds. Might grab 2 more for pax.
Check with truck dismantlers-
How are you going to control those cadillac CTS seats? I'd like to go that route, but getting them to function.
Attachment 19043
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Just need a few DPDT toggles
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02-10-2018, 07:29 PM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BennysTire
Just need a few DPDT toggles
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Then what? I count 8, and that is without lumbar controls. Do those motors all have built-in limit switches? I had to rewire the recaro seats to bypass the computer that controls them, and they were 1/4 as complex.
I did find this:
I did it and I know somebody else did the same. I got mine off of ebay for pretty cheap. Moving the fronts to the rear when the kids get bigger. The fronts are awesome after putting in the CTS. I bought another set of the air bag frames to put them down on. Since the drivers seat is controlled by the car's ecu it takes a bit of wiring to get the motion parts to work. I think I used 10 3 prong relays. The tough part is just finding all of the wires and where they come from. I took out everything that was not needed and with a spare battery (fused) you can test each circuit and make sure that you have each one labeled prior to putting in the relay. Here are the wiring diagrams that I got from the Cadillac website.
As far as the heater and air blower for the seats, I have not spent anymore time on them yet. I put in the controls for the heater in the dash and ran the wires down to the seats but didn't get any further. I think I'll send it over to my favorite shop to finish it out and get the details done.
I'm not sure that the switches I got will work with the heater system and will have to take out the heater pads and get the ones that match the switches. With the air, I got the fans to go, but I think you need a potentiometer (maybe) or somebody that is a little brighter in that electrical department to figure it out. I'd like to know if it's a simple work around. Hope this helps, good luck. Andy
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02-10-2018, 07:32 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
I scored a few Recaro air seats off classifieds. Might grab 2 more for pax.
Check with truck dismantlers-
How are you going to control those cadillac CTS seats? I'd like to go that route, but getting them to function.
Attachment 19043
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Pedestal with a big steel plate to mount the electric base. Most seats mount with 4 bolts, so just need a plate to locate the bolts.
If the electrics are an issue,
i'll pull the seat from it's base and mount it to an easier electric seat base.Hey, i have a grinder, sawmill, and a welder. I can do anything.
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02-10-2018, 07:43 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Allenstown NH
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC-1000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 39 Students
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I've made custom controls for nearly every power seat I've owned. I just wire a DPDT to each motor just like a window regulator. When the seat stops going forward, let go of the switch. That's always been my limit switch [emoji6]
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02-10-2018, 08:55 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adic27
Was wondering what people did as far as the drivers seat. Found an electric rv chair on amazon but was hoping to see some images of what other people have done. Gonna do some googleing as amazon is kinda limited in that regard i think
Please share!
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Go for an air ride seat out of a semi or bus.
Rides SO nice.
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02-10-2018, 08:56 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BennysTire
I used forklift seats in my short busses.
My TC1000 has an air seat but I have my eye on a nice seat from a cabover Kenworth...
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That's what I'm talkin bout!
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02-10-2018, 09:37 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
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Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Go for an air ride seat out of a semi or bus.
Rides SO nice.
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Since my trips are going to be 400-900+ miles I want a real comfy seat. The late model CTS seats run about $4K, doubt I'd find any at PullAPart.Now what I did find was lots and lots of 00-04 DeVille and SeVille seats for $35 for leather bucket with power rack. I'm going out tomorrow to see what I can come home with.
I can mount it to an air ride base.
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02-10-2018, 09:39 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Allenstown NH
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC-1000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 39 Students
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Since my trips are going to be 400-900+ miles I want a real comfy seat. The late model CTS seats run about $4K, doubt I'd find any at PullAPart.Now what I did find was lots and lots of 00-04 DeVille and SeVille seats for $35 for leather bucket with power rack. I'm going out tomorrow to see what I can come home with.
I can mount it to an air ride base.
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Two words:
Lincoln Continental
There's a movie theater here that uses them, soooo nice.
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02-10-2018, 09:44 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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You'd think someone could put a cup holder on one of those chairs.
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02-10-2018, 09:56 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Since my trips are going to be 400-900+ miles I want a real comfy seat. The late model CTS seats run about $4K, doubt I'd find any at PullAPart.Now what I did find was lots and lots of 00-04 DeVille and SeVille seats for $35 for leather bucket with power rack. I'm going out tomorrow to see what I can come home with.
I can mount it to an air ride base.
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Truck seats are made to go a million miles, and a good one is REALLY comfy. but do as you wish. Roll your own.
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02-10-2018, 10:02 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Truck seats are made to go a million miles, and a good one is REALLY comfy. but do as you wish. Roll your own.
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And I'm sure from a truck place they'll be pricey. I certainly am not planning on putting a million miles on what ever seat I choose. What ever I choose will certainly last at least 100k miles. My Dakota truck seats have 260k on them and they are still nice. All I need is something comfy, 100 way electric adjustable, leather on an air base. If I wear it out, I'll buy another $35 seat
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02-10-2018, 11:29 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
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Year: 1999
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Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
And I'm sure from a truck place they'll be pricey. I certainly am not planning on putting a million miles on what ever seat I choose. What ever I choose will certainly last at least 100k miles. My Dakota truck seats have 260k on them and they are still nice. All I need is something comfy, 100 way electric adjustable, leather on an air base. If I wear it out, I'll buy another $35 seat
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It's not the million miles that is the main factor. It's the comfort over 500-1000 miles. Better seats cost more, but they are simply better built and more comfortable. A comfortable journey is a safer one.
The seat in mine was comfortable for the 500-mile ride home. My right leg suffered a bit, but cruise control will take care of that.
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02-11-2018, 12:03 AM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
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There are some nice ones out there these days. Those guys sit in the saddle a long time. Top quality truck seats have multiple air bladders in the cushion that periodically inflate and deflate to stimulate blood flow. Weird, at first, but nice. Programmable.
I have one I was going to put in my semi, but since I sold that truck...Maybe it'll go in the 5-ton Cargo truck. It would have gone in the bus if I had matching copilot seat.
10-best-truck-seats
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02-11-2018, 12:48 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: PNW
Posts: 33
Year: 1987
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Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: Dt466
Rated Cap: 42
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https://m.ebay.com/itm/USSC-Air-Ride...app-cvip-panel
We found this listing for a locally available seat. Haven’t picked it up yet but we’ll get it in the bus somehow. Hubs was not a fan of the original 1987 seat on the 150 mile drive home. Lol.
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02-11-2018, 04:26 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Newbury Township, Ohio
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I found a Semi/Dump/Bus junkyard about 1 hour from here. I got a pretty nice air ride seat for 200 bucks. I had a buddy of mine who owns a carpet cleaning company clean it for me and it looked brand new. I removed the old base from the stock seat because it was too tall. I cut the old base down and re-bent it so it was about 2.5 inches tall instead of 6 inches tall. Once that was bolted back to the floor, I drilled new holes for the new seat, bolted it down, connected it to air, and it works perfectly. Finding a good seat with both arm rests is not easy but I got lucky. It's actually really comfortable too.
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02-11-2018, 05:37 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by evathedefiler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fabrini
I found a Semi/Dump/Bus junkyard about 1 hour from here. I got a pretty nice air ride seat for 200 bucks. I had a buddy of mine who owns a carpet cleaning company clean it for me and it looked brand new. I removed the old base from the stock seat because it was too tall. I cut the old base down and re-bent it so it was about 2.5 inches tall instead of 6 inches tall. Once that was bolted back to the floor, I drilled new holes for the new seat, bolted it down, connected it to air, and it works perfectly. Finding a good seat with both arm rests is not easy but I got lucky. It's actually really comfortable too.
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I got a brand new bostrom with tags on it at a yard sale for $100!
Threw it in with a bus I sold.
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