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Old 07-25-2014, 03:35 AM   #1
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Cutting/resizing bus glass

So from what I understand of bus glass, especially that used on later model buses, all windows are laminated for safety (in case of a roll-over say). If that's so, then this stuff can be removed, cut to a new size, and reused, yes? Anyone have any experience doing this?

Also I've read a couple of articles where people have made their own double-paned windows, it's a bit of work and must be done right (and under the right conditions) for it to be successful, but I believe it's in the ballpark of possibility (plus I really love re-using material whenever possible). So since my bus has got a bunch of really big windows, most of which are going to have to come out or be replaced with smaller ones, I'm thinking about giving it a try. At least see if I can make one double-paned regular size (uncut) one up front, and then try my hand at cutting this stuff, with extreme caution and wearing all the necessary protective equipment of course (safety first, always ;?). Any feedback or links to how it's done would be much appreciated, thanks!
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Re: Cutting/resizing bus glass

On our bus.....
The front windshield is laminated glass.
All other glass is tempered (has a little logo etc etched into one corner).

You can not cut tempered glass. Tempered glass is first made to size then tempered. Cutting tempered glass on a wet saw was interesting to say the least. One second it was whole and the next it was a million pieces! I had read that you could cut tempered glass with a wet saw and I thought that was odd. So I tried it with an extra piece of bus glass. I think the person who said tempered meant laminated. But now I know for sure.

I used double glue chip glass from Hobby Lobby for the one window that we cut down (it is in the shower stall).
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Re: Cutting/resizing bus glass

I have seen people cut laminated, safety, automotive, windshield, flat glass. But its pretty much a black art. If the glass has any curve to it, I don't think it would work at all. Basically they cut the front and back with standard glass cutter , then squirt lighter fluid on the cut and light it on fire, Wait a couple seconds for the lamination to soften so you can break the glass on the cuts and use razor blade to cut the lamination. To much heat= broken glass. Not enough heat = broken glass.
I have heard of people sand blasting curved glass but have never actually seen it done.
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Re: Cutting/resizing bus glass

Leadsled,yeah I've read everything I can find on cutting laminated glass, seen a couple of vids too, so don't think it's beyond my skill-set, and as far as I can tell all those big windows are flat so that's good news too.

Lorna, as I said I'm pretty sure most late-model buses have laminated windows due to all the law-suits from people (or their kin) who sued over being ejected or maimed cuz tempered glass doesn't keep passengers inside in an accident. I may be wrong, but then I have also seen late-model buses with cracked passenger windows which of course means they're laminated glass (tempered would've just shattered leaving an empty window frame ;?). And yeah, trying to cut tempered glass can be an exciting experience, especially right when it suddenly turns from a solid sheet into a million little bits, lol.

So does anyone have the straight poop on bus window (not windshield) construction?
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PS - I don't shop at Hobby Lobby anymore.
I do, just not on Sundays... which I normally work anyway!
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Really, why is that?
It involved their insurance not covering a certain type of birth control.
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It involved their insurance not covering a certain type of birth control.
I wanted to hear it from him. I wanted to hear his specific reason.
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I wanted to hear it from him. I wanted to hear his specific reason.
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