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Old 10-30-2006, 08:24 AM   #11
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if you have a digital camera, take a photo of the engine when/if you have the engine cover removed and perhaps one of us can identify it for you.

if it has glow plugs, it's prob not a dt360.......i do not believe there is any such thing as a dt350
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Old 10-31-2006, 04:17 PM   #12
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I'll do that and thanks!
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Old 10-31-2006, 04:25 PM   #13
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here are some photos of engines i found while searching. i think that the 6.9 and 7.3 liter V8 ford powerstroke/IH motors are about the only ones with glow plugs commonly used in buses. Anyone have or seen a bus with glow plugs other than the powerstroke motors? There were the old GM diesel 6.5? liter motors, but i can't immagine too many of them made it into IH bus chasis.

below are the common skoolie motors that popped into my brain. There is a high probability that you have either a DT series engine, or the V8 7.3 or 6.9 since these are international motors.

DT series engines tend to be panted blue:

[img]http://www.nav-international.com.br/Ima ... md_dt466(4).jpg[/img]


ford brazialian motors are grey:



here is an 8.2 liter V8 DD four stroke...it's a very common skoolie engine


cat motors are yellow, here's a 3208

[img]http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMiTUy0dFp54AXkejzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=1239pmo62/EXP=1162419540/**http%3a//www.rebuiltdieselengines.com/Cat3208.jpg[/img]

i don't know what color the ford (IH) 7.3 liter powerstroke motors are, but here's an image of one:



again, uncertian if they have a standard color, but here's a 5.9 cummings motor




anyone else familiar with other engine colors?
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:56 PM   #14
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AFAIK, my IH skoolie came with an ether can as factory.
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:54 PM   #15
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my cummins 5.9 is tan.

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Old 11-01-2006, 12:13 PM   #16
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Been working, late and weekends, so haven't had a chance to take a picture yet. Heck, I haven't even had a chance to raise the hood but I believe the engine is painted blue. Let you know as soon as I can check.
Thanks for all the help.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:25 PM   #17
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Well, I guess I have to back up and regroup. I got a chance to clean off the engine some today and low and behold there's a sticker that says it's a 6.9 diesel. What I see on the net says the 6.9 is a ford engine. Is that correct.
Going tonight or tomorrow to get new batteries and see what happens.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:55 PM   #18
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The 6.9 is an international engine that ford also used in thier 3/4 and 1 to E-series and F-series trucks.

In the past I have seen the glow plug controllers on them fail and I always just put a manual push button in to energize the relay. I have also had the fusable links that come off the glow plug relay burn up.

I did once have all the glow plugs burn up on one side and the other side had a bad fusable link and that whole summer it started good but then once it got a little cooler out it started hard.
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:10 PM   #19
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Quote:
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my cummins 5.9 is tan.
It looks hemorraging-15w40-out-of-every-seal black to me.

Ok, I'm sorry....just about everything I own looks way worse with the one exception being my bus. For whatever reason, that motor is spotless. It even still has the factory barcode stickers on most of the like-new Ford Gray parts. Now if I could just find where Ford hid that 474 ft lbs and 185 hp they claim it has.....

BTW...let me know what's going on with the Jeep when you get news.
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the 6.9 is a normally aspirated (non turbo) IH motor indirect injection, found in Ford pickup's and ambulances in the late 80's and possibly into the early 90's. It's the predassor to the 7.3 liter powerstroke.

all indications are that this motor lasts A LOT of miles in a pickup truck. I don't know anyone with this motor in a skoolie. I have however driven a couple of ambulances with that motor in them. We have near identical rigs that are governed @ ~94mph with a 7.3 powerstroke, and the old 6.9 (well, we've actually gotten rid of all the 6.9's by now because they were so old) anyhow, these non-turbo 6.9's in our rigs wouldn't top 65 mph unless they were going downhill.

My guess is that a 6.9 in a bus would be painfully sloth-like and probly unable to get out of it's own way. But it's all about the journey, not the destination eh? I drove all the way from michigan to cali and back with a horribly underpowered 6.6 liter braizillian ford that climbed the hills in colorado at a solid 21 mph @ wide open throttle. Top speed on flat ground was 57 mph. It was a long long trip.

be glad it's not a new 6.0 liter ford motor.....they can't keep these new motors running, Ford has been buying them back from owners due to lemon laws in various states.

i still don't know why your motor won't start......
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