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Old 07-27-2015, 11:05 AM   #1
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For some reason I have a mental block on how to lock the door from the outside that swings out on both sides by the steps. Some guidance would be appreciated.
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Old 07-27-2015, 01:13 PM   #2
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Are you saying that you have two doors that open in the middle (and both swing outward) rather than two doors that are attached and fold to the front when open?
I suppose you could have two actuators that run on one controller so a push of the button (key fob) would move the actuator posts up and out of the way. With a hole in the top of each door for the actuator post to go into when locked. It is a variation of the one actuator that I used to lock my door.
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Old 07-27-2015, 01:59 PM   #3
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I think you're describing a double door, with each leaf half the width of the doorway and set up to swing outward, as opposed to the bi-fold door that pulls inward on many school buses. My bus had a double door like this. It has a rear door too, and that one was equipped with locks that could be operated from the outside, so I had only to find a way to block the front door from the inside to prevent it opening and then enter/exit through the rear.

Unfortunately I don't have any pictures and the door is removed now.. Hopefully a written description will do. I looked at the linkage that operated the front door and pondered it. Each door had a fixed arm, and to each arm a tie rod attached with a rod end. I noted that the front-most leaf had to open first because of the way the seals overlapped when closed, and I realized that I could attach something where the bolt through the rod end held to the door arm. I assembled a coupler nut and short piece of threaded rod to replace that bolt; this gave me a threaded socket to work with below the rod arm. Then I made a small sheet metal plate. It attached to an interior panel over the door and extended out so that a hole through this plate aligned directly below the threaded socket of that coupler nut when the door was closed. I could then insert a bolt through the hole in the sheet metal plate and thread it into the coupler nut; this assembly of coupler nut, bolt and plate held the door arm and therefore the one door leaf and prevented it opening. The other door leaf was also held via the tie rod and linkage mechanism.

It sounds like your case is different to mine because you want to operate the lock from the outside. If so then this description isn't directly applicable, but I hope it might help get some ideas going. Maybe the locking plate idea could be adapted, and use an electric solenoid, cable, or linkage-operated locking pin instead of the hand-inserted bolt I used.
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Old 07-27-2015, 06:46 PM   #4
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From outside... Padlock and a hasp. From inside - a block of wood wedged by the steps!
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Old 07-28-2015, 01:47 PM   #5
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Thanks for the ideas. I will have to work up some drawings
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:52 PM   #6
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We have a 1993 International DT360 so yours might be the same as ours. Our door is controlled by a key on the outside that activates a switch and the doors are on a chain mechanism inside. So to lock it you just remove the key. I felt dumb when the guy I bought the bus from told me that after I asked.
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Old 08-02-2015, 09:40 PM   #7
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My 89 Bluebird has the folding door so I put a slide-bolt on the door that slides down past the edge of the step and has a hole in the top so it can be locked. I can shoot a pic of it tomorrow if that would help?

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Old 08-03-2015, 12:08 AM   #8
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Sounds interesting. I have a folding door and I'm looking at options too. My door has an opening control operated from the drivers seat that locks the door. It's a spring flap.
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On a related note, how does everyone lock their back door? Mine's just the turn handle on the outside and the arm handle on the inside. It would be nice to have something more nuanced than a padlock, and operational from inside as well.
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Old 08-03-2015, 08:01 AM   #10
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Simple. My back door lock is a straightforward house door lock.

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