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05-19-2017, 11:04 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Where the road takes me
Posts: 191
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466e
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Dreaded "click" no ignition.
I got the dreaded start "click" with no ignition. I didn't do anything to the bus except charge the battery. Checked all the safety doors to make sure it wasn't that. Thoughts?
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05-19-2017, 11:34 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iheartbus
I got the dreaded start "click" with no ignition. I didn't do anything to the bus except charge the battery. Checked all the safety doors to make sure it wasn't that. Thoughts?
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Put a volt meter across you battery terminals. With no load it won't tell you much but maybe you cooked your batteries. I at least get a buzzer for the doors and what not. Then move to the fuses.
Good luck.
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05-19-2017, 11:36 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Did you accidentally put your bus in "Park"?
I've noticed when people are in my bus looking at the driver's area, the shifter seems to frequently end up in park.
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Nobody's Business
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05-19-2017, 11:36 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Where the road takes me
Posts: 191
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466e
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Buzzer works, lights on, dash works just clicks.
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05-19-2017, 11:37 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Where the road takes me
Posts: 191
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466e
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
Did you accidentally put your bus in "Park"?
I've noticed when people are in my bus looking at the driver's area, the shifter seems to frequently end up in park.
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Clicks in neutral, reverse, and drive. My bus doesn't have a park.
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05-19-2017, 12:05 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Yeah, I know there's no park. That's the issue. I'll occasionally find my transmission in reverse if someone else has been around.
So if all the hatches and doors are ok, it's got to be electrical. Have you cleaned your ground wire attachment point to the frame? Cleaned the battery terminals? I know that's basic, but I like to start with the free or cheap fixes. Not that many people clean their ground connections.
Sometimes the ground connection will let enough power through for the dash to look normal, but not enough power for the starter.
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Nobody's Business
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05-19-2017, 12:09 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iheartbus
Clicks in neutral, reverse, and drive. My bus doesn't have a park.
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^This. No Park in mine either. Every once in awhile it bites me in the ass. I don't use e-brakes in my cars. Oh $hit the bus is still moving.
All the right buzzers and a click when turning the starter over tells me you aren't getting any current to the starter. Measure the voltage. Dollar to donuts it reads under 12 volts. A healthy battery should be 12.8-13.4. On charging, it should be 13.4 to as high as 14.2
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05-19-2017, 12:10 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
Yeah, I know there's no park. That's the issue. I'll occasionally find my transmission in reverse if someone else has been around.
So if all the hatches and doors are ok, it's got to be electrical. Have you cleaned your ground wire attachment point to the frame? Cleaned the battery terminals? I know that's basic, but I like to start with the free or cheap fixes. Not that many people clean their ground connections.
Sometimes the ground connection will let enough power through for the dash to look normal, but not enough power for the starter.
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I don't even know where mine is. I still need to add a kill switch to eliminate any possible leakage current.
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05-19-2017, 12:56 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Picton,Ont, Can.
Posts: 1,956
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: GMC
Engine: Cat 3116
Rated Cap: 72
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Another electrical problem and you haven't figured out the other probs yet.
I asked for pics of the back of the yellow box for that issue, no response.
No meter, what can we do?
How old is the battery and the cables for it? Never been replaced yet I think.
What do you assume is clicking? The starter or the different solenoids being energised when the key is turned to start? The bus shouldn't start in reverse anyway if automatic trans.
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05-19-2017, 12:56 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Where the road takes me
Posts: 191
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466e
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Figured it out, a teeny tiny lil wire was loose.
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05-19-2017, 01:01 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: So Ill
Posts: 267
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: Cummins 5.9 Allison AT545
Rated Cap: 71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
Yeah, I know there's no park. That's the issue. I'll occasionally find my transmission in reverse if someone else has been around.
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Who the heck would be rude enough to mess with your driveshaft as your guest??
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05-19-2017, 01:28 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Apparently people that dream about driving a bus and using the automatic shifter like a stick shift.
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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05-19-2017, 01:32 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: So Ill
Posts: 267
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: Cummins 5.9 Allison AT545
Rated Cap: 71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
Apparently people that dream about driving a bus and using the automatic shifter like a stick shift.
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lol even so, how rude...
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05-19-2017, 02:10 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Yes, how rude. They should get their own bus to play with.
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Robin
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