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Old 07-18-2015, 10:27 AM   #11
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Whaha lol, I already live on reclaimed seabed.
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Old 07-18-2015, 10:40 PM   #12
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So I just found out a diesel engine is not gonna work with our tax system.
It's a bit complicated but i'll try to explain.

When your vehicle is 40 years old or older, its excluded from any taxes.
When your vehicle is 25 years or older and it is a gasoline engine you pay 120,- roadtax a year. (Sweet deal considering I won't be driving it much the first couple years)
The diesel and Lpg engines are taxed fully, about 300,- to 350,- a month for 15.mt camperbus. (Ridicules)

If I buy a bus that isn't 25 years old yet I can park it on a camp site and suspend it for a year, it will cost me about 30,- every year.

So... Tax wise my first choise should be an early 90's gasser with good power and propper gearing for 70mph topspeed and still has climbing capabilities.

What engines are available and which ones would be my best choise?
And what transmission should I look for? (Or avoid)

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Old 07-19-2015, 07:23 AM   #13
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How much would the insurance be?
At a dollar a mile, gas will eat up lots of difference...
But in case, here are some gassers that will likely go cheap
Public Surplus: Auction #1403608

A GMC Gasser would probably be ok... Funny how that worked out!
I know my 85' Ford chassis Thomas was aweful. I wouldn't reccomend one of those.
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Old 07-19-2015, 01:22 PM   #14
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I have no idea about the insurance yet, I'll contact my agent about that.

Yes driving it will be a lot more expensive compared to diesel but €4200,- a year or €120,- a year roadtax is a big difference.
€4200,- is just to much.
I won't be driving it a whole lot the first couple years cause i'm working to pay of the mortgage on my house.
And when I start drivin it, I'll go to the south of Europe and park it for a couple of months so a gasser is the way to go for me.

I'm not a really big Ford fan anyway's, so the GMC would be just fine.
Is the 454ci. the biggest engine available?
And what tranny should I look for?

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Old 07-19-2015, 02:58 PM   #15
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GM's could be 454's or 427's.
MOST are going to be 366's. The 366 is adequate for the job. They will pretty much all have Allison 545's for transmissions. This is not the desirable choice as they have no lockup.
They aren't going to be anything you want to be up in the Alps driving. With little to no engine braking and no auxillary braking system, the REAL mountains will be pretty tough to tackle.
For living in it and traveling around a bit, a gas engine will be fine.
Not trying to sound negative or anything. Just giving you the truth about what a full size gas GMC school bus is going to be capable of.
I live 30 miles from disney, its flat and easy. My last bus was a gas bus and it struggled even here in the Sunshine State.
As I said- will be fine for a mobile home, but not so much for transcontinental travel and mountains.
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Old 07-19-2015, 04:01 PM   #16
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That sure doesn't sound to good, but thanks for mentioning!
Now I understand what everyone is saying, there is no perfect bus.
But there is no way i'm not doing this so I might just give up some power.
First priority is to start living in it, not traveling in it.
It's sure not ideal but i'll find my way.

There is also an option to buy a diesel and register it as a truck to haul stuff with.
Will cost around €500,- a year roadtax.
Just a little bit on the wrong site of the law but it might just slip through the cracks.
Don't know if I want to worry about it every time I take it on a trip.

This is a hard one... I let this one sink in for a couple of day's. ;) lol.
Thanks for your advice!
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