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Old 09-04-2007, 02:18 PM   #1
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Re: Every one should look at these pictures of a RV crash

nasty looking stuff....we currently are staying in a camper (30footer) and some of the paneling I have looks the same, rotten...yet the outside looks fine...makes me wonder what I'll find when I go to tear it out.
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:54 PM   #2
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i know that i am guilty of not adequately securing items inside my skoolie. I think that in a similar circumstance the chassis and body of my skoolie would probably sustain much less damage, but there would be plenty of flying projectiles inside the vehicle. I am preparing to build a new bus, i think i'll put a lot more thought into properly securing items on the interior.

those photos are pretty scary.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:20 PM   #3
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Those pictures really show how cheaply motor homes are built. I mean I guess my bus is built "cheaper" dollar wise but the stuff in my bus made of real wood and held together with both glue and screws.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:41 PM   #4
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Good post Jimmy, thanks.
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That's a pretty sad situation. My wife and I bought a brand spanking new travel trailer back in early 2005. I right away started realizing how poorly it was put together and how poorly just about any RV is put together. Even on some trailers costing $80K or more, they were still kind of shoddy. That's why I sold my trailer and bought a skoolie. It's cheaper and I can build it better.

As far as this crash is concerned, I don't know how you could build better to avoid damage like that. If you take a 20,000+ pound vehicle and slam it into some immobile object at a high rate of speed, what do you expect? I'm guessing that if I glue all of my cabinets in and put a bolt in them every two inches and slam my bus into a culvert at 65 mph, those cabinets are going to kill me.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:43 PM   #6
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Ever see a monster truck hit a motor home, ever see a monster truck his a school bus, think the 100k motor homes are safer than a 50k motor home?

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Old 09-05-2007, 12:00 AM   #7
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Re: Every one should look at these pictures of a RV crash

Just to add to the story of how this guy wrecked.

He was driving down from Hurrican Ridge, in Washington State; a road that decends 5280 feet in 17 miles. He was standing up on the brake pedal, at speeds estimated to be up to 70 mph. The switch to his compression brake was said to be off.

One lesson that should be learned for air brake operators is to check your slack adjustors. Another lesson: go down the hill in the gear you go up.
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:19 PM   #8
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Rest in peace Lonnie Owens.
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So if my math is correct that's a 6% grade for 17 miles? That will make anyone's bottomside pucker up. The current release of the Minnesota CDL manual recommends going down a hill one or two gears lower than you ascend it is and is attributed to more aerodynamic vehicle designs along with increased power. I think that's good advice for those of use with skoolies as well. Though they might not be beacons of aerodynamics our automatic transmission (most of us anyway) are able to freewheel to some extent and do not offer the amount of compression braking that a manual might. This is especially true for those of us with AT545's without lockup on the converter and no means of installing a retarder or exhaust brake.
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It is always interesting to see crash photos like this. I thought there was another one posted here a couple years ago where it steered to the right and tumbled down a hill just before going over a bridge in which most of the family died.

My only real experience going up and down hills was last spring in the black hills but I did everything I learned to do. downshift the automatic transmission (at545) to a lower gear going down. At one point I had it in first gear going down at about 10mph with people behind me getting anonyed and on the 2 lanes going down in either second or third pushing speeds from 20 to 40 I got past by pickup trucks pulling 5th wheels down the hill like they knew what they were doing. I'd hate to have my brakes go out driving down as fast as some of them were doing. I kept it under control the whole time and if my service brake did go out I am going slow enough where I could use the parking brake to slow me down to a stop if needed and wait for a tow. I don't mind going slow up and down hills cause often times the view is good and I do tend to look down inside cars when going that slow just watching them.

Yes I have seen the monster trucks plow right through sticks and staples. And they try to crush a school bus that they precut parts of it to help it get crushed only to have it hold up anyways and they used it at the next show for it to survive again. Minneapolis often gets at least 2 shows a year and this last winter they did 3 shows and they get a good turn out each time. I kinda wonder when people see the shows they tend to agree that a school bus is a safe form of travel.
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