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Old 09-11-2019, 11:09 PM   #21
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I will add myself to the lonesome Schoolie builders group...lol. I have had many discouragers say just buy an RV and be done with it. My answer as usual was thanks but no thanks. There is no denying it is a lot of work (especially if your raising the roof on a Crown). The amount of rivets I had to remove is like two to three times that of a Bluebird or Thomas. I am way past that now but recall my arms aching for days from the air chisel. I raised the roof myself but did get offers of help. Try to think of what it will be instead of what you have to do and break down the work into smaller tasks.
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:15 PM   #22
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I will add myself to the lonesome Schoolie builders group...lol. I have had many discouragers say just buy an RV and be done with it. My answer as usual was thanks but no thanks. There is no denying it is a lot of work (especially if your raising the roof on a Crown). The amount of rivets I had to remove is like two to three times that of a Bluebird or Thomas. I am way past that now but recall my arms aching for days from the air chisel. I raised the roof myself but did get offers of help. Try to think of what it will be instead of what you have to do and break down the work into smaller tasks.
I did my row with a hammer, punch and chisel. At one point I was trying to drive home and couldn't grip the wheel.
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:03 AM   #23
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Jsneeb, thank you for posting the excerpt from "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". I read that book some 35 or so years ago. I really NEEDED that refresher. I'll have to dust off that book and give it another read. It is one book I felt was germain to life at all sorts of levels. I had not thought of it applying to skoolies, but it does so in a very BIG way.


I, too, and the only one working on our rig. My wife helps with design and as a sounding board and certain other tasks which she can do. I like to WORK on the bus. My only regret is to have put a timeline on the work. The Beast has its own timeline though, so I have little say in the matter really.


Zona_the_bus ... chin up! Yes, it is frustrating doing it yourself. As long as you keep in mind that you CAN do all that is needed for the job, you will find a way to make it happen. Stick with it, it will happen.
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Old 09-12-2019, 02:05 PM   #24
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This is all that is needed, I don't think anyone can come up with a faster or easier method.
I tried that. Snug-fit square bits stripped many of the screws. And I tried the "impact driver" another guy posted here- hammering my arm off upwards.



The only method I found to work was to pry the panels down and air chisel the screw heads off. Absolutely miserable experience.
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Old 09-12-2019, 02:07 PM   #25
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I've been there. Just gotta grin n bear it.
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:15 PM   #26
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Don't let it get you down.


Just this week, I noticed some spots on the back door of my short shuttle (the one thing I didn't strip and rebuild when I build the bus). Mine has been mostly done and driving for a year. I had to rip out the main bed and gut the back wall of the bus due to mold. A slight leak that went unnoticed.


Stuff happens.


With that said... if you CANT get the roof metal down... then don't. It's not the end of the world. You could go over the metal with some foam board and your ceiling material to gain a bit of insulation and not worry about it.. or just keep picking away at it and you'll get it.


Either way, it's nothing to stress over.



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Old 09-18-2019, 03:24 PM   #27
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I’ll second the suggestion of whacking the screws first with a hammer then using impact drill.
It’s sounds like the “clutch” on your drill is set too low for how stuck the screws are so it might be slipping.
Maybe sign up for a van build in the desert this Fall?
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Old 09-18-2019, 03:43 PM   #28
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I have a roof with screws as well but even with a few friends I weigh the need to undo something that seems fine just to do it all over again.

So I have no plans to redo my room. I ALSO have no plans to install water tanks. I remember something that an old pro said which was to live in it for a while and see what you REALLY need . He suggested your design will be affected by how comfortable you live vs how hard you want to work hehehe. I do hope to live full time in my mini but I think I can do it without a lot of bells and whistles like running water ( ha ...maybe not we'll see )

I also remember reading about someone who sold their fully modded full size bus because they realized they didn't really like living in it full time.

Get the minimum done and start travelling / living.....you'll find time to modify ?
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Old 09-18-2019, 03:48 PM   #29
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That's very good advice. Thanks. Most of my stress comes from when my plans get screwed up and I stress over unscrewing them. So I'm going to try it without plans for a while just to see what happens.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:03 PM   #30
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Have you ever looked for outside support? Since you are in San Diego, Lake Havasu is not too far. You may want to attend the van build fest starting Nov 8th: https://www.enigmaticnomadics.com/2019-van-build-fest. Great event to get help, return the favour and hook up with like minded people. Jamie lives in a skoolie conversion.

Then around the second week of January should be the Rubber Tramp Rendezvous, possibly in Quartzside AZ. We will attend for a third time this coming one: https://homesonwheelsalliance.org/rtr/

And don't listen to the haters, they are great events and lots of good people.
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