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Old 06-14-2012, 03:29 AM   #11
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Re: First amphibious RV bus?

You are not very clear as to this "project".
Are you looking to "convert" a bus to cross rivers and streams?
Or to go like a boat in a lake??

Giving the amount of "converting" that would be done, very very little of the original "bus" would be left.
It would be allot more cost effective to buy a bus for the power train; because that is all you could use.

You estimate of 1.5 tons or 3000 pounds of 3/16 plate steel and other statment would not even come close to creating a hull for a "bus" of the type you mention; size and lenght. You would far surpass the $60,000.00 you state for your budget.

Now as I mentioned a WW2 "Duck would be a good platform to "convert" into a "short RV" and maybe fit into the budget you state you have.
You already have a hull and power train degsigned for "amphibious" travels. You want to get crazy cut the thing in half move it apart and construct duplicate hull in the middle; exstend the drive/prop shaft. Then build the walls and roof and construct your "RV" interior.

This is just a suggestion and what I would do in a project like this..
I have been around boats and trucks all my life. My family used to own and run a charter fishing boat steel hull and using two detroit 8v92 screamers for power and it was a large 20 ton boat.

BUT I am looking forward to pictures as others are and your progress.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:28 PM   #12
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Re: First amphibious RV bus?

http://youtu.be/rsrDKdpcj9Q <- that terra wind rv video.

at 2:37 it has pontoons that come out the sides and that inflate. well you could make that for your bus but on a larger scale. that would give you the floating and the stability needed.

another amfibie bus video
http://youtu.be/Ou3krBRAUYw

http://youtu.be/NI2VueerU7A <-- in and out of the water

http://youtu.be/CLr-q6yJ4m0 <-- in and out and some cockpit view, not much

http://youtu.be/p3wVaFNNC1s <-- in and out

http://youtu.be/pvlGElo38G4 <-- MAKING of the amphibious buses! and cockpit view



http://youtu.be/0Ou-aYa4hAw <-- give er enough speed anything is possible

hope some links are stuff you havent seen but probably have
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:30 PM   #13
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Hack, ,i want to be there when he put it in the water and watch it sink ,some people just have hard head, A fool and his money will soon part...
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Old 06-17-2012, 05:13 PM   #14
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If you pull it off,
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:44 AM   #15
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Re: First amphibious RV bus?

Yes you are belittling me.
What does power curve via hull drag and all that have to do with this subject anyway?
Are trying to make a high speed RV Bus/Boat?

For your information WW2 "Duks" are able and willing to travel like a boat; they even crossed the English channel....


Since you are and "Engineer" then you know the amount of TONNAGE in ballast YOU WILL HAVE TO ADD to keep from capsizing in the water.

Also you can't just cut the front of a bus and make a "Hull" angled nose; the vehicle "bus" frame can't take that kind of stress; Oh I forgot Your an engineer..
As myself and we all await eagerly the finished project..

So knock yourself out..
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Re: First amphibious RV bus?

oh i forgot about this youtuber "pisser" (pun on his last name) and his Suboataru. he made a subaru car into a boat. so far it hasnt sunk!

http://youtu.be/sUGfVutM1VM

and his new channel is http://www.youtube.com/user/pisserschannel
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:24 AM   #17
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Nah, Herodotus. 'The Histories'.
Worth reading.
I'll read '1066 and all That'. "Weenie, weedy, weakie" is a
quotation from it, and was clearly meant as a joke.
There is a lot of reasons the Romans petered out. I don't think not having a zero was one of them.
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Re: First amphibious RV bus?

can you post pics? even if it's a scanned napkin

I say go for it...w/o...stepping off the plank into the deep end we wouldn't have submarines,planes and helicopters...OH!!!...and the world would still be flat
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:21 AM   #20
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Sorry BBBBBBWWWWWAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAA...
Really ski as well? You would need a turbo shaft jet engine to develop the amount of power to move something like this that fast...
We did fantasize a bit and it could work with lots and lots of money.
Build a "amphibious" RV/BUS; but instead of sitting in the water have hydraulically controlled fore and aft hydrofoils that are flush with the side when retracted. Deploy them and when coming up to speed the "bus" would lift out of the water and ride on the hydrofoils. Allot of drag would be eliminated. Maybe you can throw this idea at the producers of the next James Bond Flick..
BUT we estimated something like this would cost in the millions to design and construct.
My uncle a marine engineer pointed out with the flat bottom at the speed you claim to be pulling a ski at when you attempt a turn you will capsize and before you do skid sideways as well. It will then catch and flip the bus upside down....
You are also top heavy again you will capsize.
Drive the front axle with a 48v forklift motor?
The rubber wheels in back you mention won't work; you ground them and you will unload the drive axles and be stuck; Oh the 48v forklift motor driving the front axle is now going to try and move around 30-40,000lbs?
RV doors?
Swim Deck on the back of a pusher bus?
Somehow sealing the engine and total redesign of the cooling system and drive train?
You would still need about 8000lbs minimum just for ballast to again try to not capsize..
The bus frame and body is not design nor strong enough to take hits from entering the water or "waves"..
An example; wave hits the front and also the windshield; unless you redesign the frame and use about 1/2 inch minimum lexan that windshield will implode inward into the bus and here comes tons of water; you go down.. You will also have to reinforce all the windows and they all will have to be water tight...
This is just some of many things you will encounter and have to overcome to TRY to make this work; but it won't be at $60,000.00
THAT is why the Terrawind "Bus" costs that much; they design and build from the ground up from scratch.
You do this make sure you are wearing scuba gear and hope you can get out when it sinks.
Decide and Go for it and I and we would like to see "real" pictures of your progress.
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