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Old 05-16-2016, 06:40 PM   #41
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What is a Dailmer bus?
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Old 05-16-2016, 06:53 PM   #42
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What is a Dailmer bus?
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https://www.daimler.com/company/busi...daimler-buses/
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Old 05-16-2016, 07:40 PM   #43
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you can also buy a used bus at a dealer and often they will offer services to take out seats, paint, replace floors etc... I bought my bus and had them paint it and remove the school lights as well as had it serviced...

sure i paid more than I wouldve with a Govdeals bus but I also have that blank canvas to work with... I left in seats , floors, heaters, etc as I want them... I have nowhere near 35-40k in it.. even if I crank up my engine and swap out the transmission for a 6speed im still way way cheaper than new...

there are more than one bus dealer that will perform services on your bus for you..

just something to think about..

most times you can order a new bus completely as you wish.. most bus companies have versions without seats as they are often bought as equipment busses for sports teams, and sometimes gym-busses for gymnastics teams to train in.

Navistar IC stopped selling their BE series which was a lower cost lighter duty bus.. for as long and as high as you will want it.. you will want a CE-300, I cant imagine a 300 series going for 40k.. even empty... my guess is the schoold get budget discounts on the number of units they buy... now if you could talk real nice to a local district fleet manager they might be able to get you under the umbrella of your purchase.. where their sales rep gives you the same pricing as the schools get and you pay for the bus yourself....

I did that with a car years ago and our company fleet manager..

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Old 05-16-2016, 08:53 PM   #44
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Good, thank you.
Just a paranoid mind at work.
I have been through much worse, this is a first with my eyes.
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Old 05-17-2016, 08:09 AM   #45
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I did not know that, thank you.
I did that group rate with my old department.
I bought a 2011 Crown Vic in 2010 made to suit.
Thought I was cool stuff, little did I know 2011 was the last production year before Ford switched to the "Mini" Taurus and "Dora" Explorer.

On a side note, Ford really threw in the towel in the Interceptor market when they discounted the Vics. Dodge upped the pressure with the Charger and Ford buckled. Rather than redesigning a new interceptor they wimped out.

The entire concept behind abandoning the Crown Vic was mileage based.
Trust me when I say, these Departments don't care about mileage.
It is performance based and a good portion of our fuel is burned idling.
If your Vic idled for 45 minutes or longer it would start farting water from the exhaust and as soon as you jumped in and took off to a call there would be a spray of water on the ground.

Sorry, I will have to talk to a fleet manager and see what I can do.
You would think some of the manufacturers would be willing to pump out a few partially completely buses every year.
These seems to be a limited market for new blank buses.
I would paid the extra for a brand new blank shell.

Services around here are limited being Northern Minnesota.
A lot of backyard mechanics and very specialized shops.
It is not an ideal area to buy or convert local buses given the massive amount of salt added to the roads every winter.

Thank you for the info.
I will look into all of it.
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Old 05-18-2016, 05:58 PM   #46
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Smile 05.18.16 Update

Here are some before and after pics of my wheels.
I spent about an hour with a wire wheel and about an hour with a Dermal getting the rust off. Then I coated it with inhibitor and encapsilator. Topped off with a premium UV resistant gloss enamel protector spray.

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I did the same process with the front bumper and I am very happy with the results.

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This is a picture of the undercarriage of my bus.
I don't know how the interior floor sections are secured into these cross arms. Now, is this level of rust normal or do I have problems?

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Please let me know what you all think.
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[I spent about an hour with a wire wheel and about an hour with a Dermal getting the rust off. Then I coated it with inhibitor and encapsilator. Topped off with a premium UV resistant gloss enamel] I don't know how the interior floor sections are secured into these cross arms. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ the cross beam ribs are riveted on a seam across the bus left to right orientation on my amgen 33. then the beam is welded to the floor on the opposite side of the beam cross section orientation. research hydroblasting, much more effective than air pressure blasting. either one do yourself a huge favor and do not use black beauty. its coal slag with all the heavy metals in the aggregate. get some nice clean garnet balsting media. no silicosis of the lung! people in the gulf coast region of texas use ospho rust treatment to convert rust. and you can spray it on with a latex paint sprayer too.. encapsulation always leaks over time. if you do blast the underside and treat be sure to undercoat with a tar based undercoating to add back the protection blasted away.
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Thank you Tincan.
I will look into that.
Appreciate it.
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When you undercoat, be sure to be mindful of fittings and plugs. I would cover them with something to keep from coating them. That way you can identify them later if service is needed.
I know a few guys that use a bedliner type of coating for the undercarriage of their vehicles. It's easier to spray than a tar based, and will last longer due to the fact that heat does not affect it and debris doesn't stick to it as well.
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Undercarriage

How do I pre treat the undercarriage?

I called around when, I first got my bus to check into sand blasting.
Of the four semi local blasters, they all offered to sell me their equipment rather than pricing out the job.

Would I be better off flopping on my back with a grinder and doing what I can by hand or using a chemical treatment on the rust?

The rhino liner spray sounds easier, especially if I will be the one applying it.

One thought I had was to treat the undercarriage and then mount protectant sheet metal panels between the roadway / tires and the actual undercarriage.

Is that a good idea or excessive?
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