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Old 09-30-2009, 10:13 PM   #11
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...I tend to think the phone books would also help insulate as well...
Indeed, paper does have insulative properties. Many people used wadded up paper as insulation in many of the slat-walled structures I've dismantled.

I've also got access to scraps and discards of graphite/poly-carbonate materials used in military applications that I've been playing with, but they too, have their pros and cons.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:12 AM   #12
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Why not bulletproof glass probaby can get it in sheets that would "skin" the inside

Why not buy aftermarket humvee panels? here is a link for a quick read about humvee panels. I was going to try to find a link to a dealer but ran out of time.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/hta.../20040203.aspx

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When American troops in Iraq first encountered ambushes and roadside bombs, they realized that their unarmored trucks and hummers were particularly vulnerable. While many rushed to attach armor plates to the vehicles, some of the reserve troops who were cops back home knew of better solutions. At least two firms were selling light weight bulletproof composites that could be quickly attacked to police cars (doors, hood and so on). One type, Aztik 100, consisted of light weight, bendable panels. One side had glue on it, protected by paper that was peeled away when you wanted to attach a panel to a police car, or hummer, door or hood. Another product, RhinoPak, quickly developed a set of rigid lightweight bulletproof panels built to fit right on a hummer, including the top. Bullet proof glass is also provided for the windshield. The composite armor will stop a heavy machine-gun bullet (.50 caliber or 14.5mm. These panels would also stop most fragments from a bomb exploding nearby. As a result of recent reforms, units had money, and authority, available to get these armor kits, and many did.
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Old 10-01-2009, 03:12 AM   #13
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Re: Fortifiying Your Bus Against Intruders Or Attack?

i think this thread is amusing for the obvious reasons. the idea of fortifying a school bus that you have converted into an rv is insane. im not saying it cant be done, but why? i understand there are times and places where it could help...but your in a vehicle that has wheels and an engine, and if you think your in an area that warrants bulletproofing and a waco like arsenal, maybe you should examine the part of your brain that has you parking there. im not saying you should not be prepared in case of an emergency. i am considering having a handgun in my bus. but in my humble opinion doing much more than that is more than overkill. or have i just missed some news report about a rash of boondocking bus dwellers that have been slaughtered in america lately? just my .02 for the thread. like i say, naked sombrero dancing is always more effective. maybe add in some platform shoes with goldfish in the soles.
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:34 AM   #14
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You should look back over your math.
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:59 AM   #15
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There are Google searches like this one that will help;

http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/databa ... orge2.html

You were close, but your answer is in cubic feet. A cubic yard is three times that. Cubed, of course.

So you thought you needed 10 some cubic yards. But you only need 10 cubic feet for one panel. BIG difference.

I wonder how heavy that is. It might add up fast, and be a problem for lighter duty vehicles.

What chassis does your bus have?
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:03 AM   #16
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why not a brinks armourd car conversion? O buy old brinks car bodies and use them as parts to build your walls...

Yes the idea is a bit silly, unless you happen to need it. and then its to late isent it...
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Old 10-01-2009, 07:38 AM   #17
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Just to clarify, I am talking about AAC (Autoclaved Aerated Concrete) which supposedly floats in water, if this is true, it must be lightweight.
A aircraft carrier floats in water....but its not so light I think.

that tire sealant looks neat except it says max speed 25mph.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:24 AM   #18
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Ice Czar, by your own links you seem to have annoyed people throughout the nation and perhaps the world. Santana once sang "Youv'e got to change your evil ways, Baby" This keeps up and you may have to use your book learned defense tactics for your own sake. I could see a forum started in the future. Snuff the Czar.com You just need to curve your misguided apptitude and redirect your energy.

Shooting a .45 at 13 and a FN at 21. 30,000 rounds is a little less that what the boy has logged at 26YO. He loves to shoot. Myself, 100 rounds every week per dept. regs. and personal standards. Started with a .22 at 7, to a bolt action AR-50 BMG. Have fired everything in between from an MP5 to a type 97 Jap 20MM anti-tank rifle. (Soldier of Fortune conventions in Vegas, are so fun) Ok, now I'm bragg'in

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Old 10-01-2009, 05:29 PM   #19
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I was talking to a fellow I know the other night. We got to discussing the current state of affairs and whether we expect things to get worse. He was in agreement with my thoughts that the future is very uncertain, and that things don't look good.

He was surprised to learn that I am not currently armed in my taxicab business, which is primarily because airport rules do not allow it. .
the airport has rules against taxi-cab drivers carrying concealed weapons inside their vehicles while on airport property? Federal rules do not make airports off limits to firearms, just the sterile areas beyond the security checkpoints. What airport is this? Too bad you're not in michigan as any local government owned (funded) airport cannot create special rules regarding the carrying of firearms, especially in the parking lots!
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:32 PM   #20
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